To: annieokie
It is not an attack, Trump is exactly right about this. Cruz is extremely vulnerable on this issue.
Remember this, it does not matter what all the conservative pundits say about Cruz being a natural-born citizen and so do not worry, he is eligible.
All that matters is what THE JUDGE says who will hear this case. And if goes with the constition, he will have to rule both Cruz and Rubio ineligible.
If Cruz and Rubio do well, and Trump just takes a plurality, rest assured that Jeb Bush is going to come in and litigate this. He would be stupid not to do so, and he has smart lawyers working for him. He will knock both Cruz and Rubio out of the race, and then with his super-delagates and whatever delegates he gains from that action (and chicanery) he will take the nomination.
Furthermore, in the unlikely event that Bush does not do this, and Cruz wins the presidency, Hillary or Sanders will then find the right judge and take this to court, and take the White House.
Cruz’ ineligibility is based on Article II, Section I, Clause 5 where it clearly states the requirements the candidate must meet to become president:
1) be 35 years of age,
2) have lived in the US for the previous 14 years,
3) be born on American soil,
4) both parents must be citizens.
Cruz only meets two requirements. This is the right time, before the first primary, to raise the alarm. Cruz and Rubio should bow out of this race now, and together, since they are both Senators, begin the proceedings for a constitutional amendment that would allow them to run.
So again, if you do not mind the idea of Pres. Jeb Bush or Pres. Hillary Clinton, by all means vote for Cruz or Rubio, knowing that your vote for either of these will ultimately give Bush a significant number of their delegates.
28 posted on
01/06/2016 4:19:11 PM PST by
erkelly
To: erkelly
I'm sure you have some points there, I just know that TED CRUZ is the most brilliant candidate running now. I believe that brilliance has made him determine to himself that he is eligible and prepared to defend any attack on this matter, unlike Obama.
My point with Trump........stop the attacks on your friend. This is not the first time, speaking about evangelicals coming out of CUBA, talk about a stupid remark, that was it. Cruz didn't come out of Cuba.....Trump just needs to stop this type of speak.
Actually I would love to see them team up NOW and attack full throttle against Hellary.
To: erkelly
The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
39 posted on
01/06/2016 4:33:40 PM PST by
DBrow
To: erkelly
You don't READ
THE LAW, do you ?
You could NOT be MORE WRONG, even if you tried !
FACT: Cruzs fathers Cuban nationality at the time of Cruzs birth, is irrelevant,
according to the law at that time,
just so long as he was a LEGAL Immigrant at the time of Ted Cruz's birth,
AND both of Ted Cruz's parents were legally married to each other.
What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?
The 14th Amendment IS a part of the U.S. Constitution and states in SECTION 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
So, under that power to legislate, Congress legislated and the President signed into law: When ONE parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national,the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child,with five of the years after the age of 14.
... While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship,amendments since 1952 HAVE ELIMINATED THESE REQUIREMENTS.
When Ted Cruz was born, his parents were "IN WEDLOCK".
They married, moved to Calgary, Alberta, and in late 1970 had their first and only child, Rafael Edward Cruz.
Cruz was born on December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada where his parents, Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson and Rafael Bienvenido Cruz.
Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, in a family of three quarters Irish and one quarter Italian descent.
Eleanor Darragh, mother of Ted Cruz, was raised in Delaware, graduated from a Catholic High School (1952) in the U.S., as well as Rice University (1956),so clearly she meets the residency requirements.
Source
In 1957, Rafael Bienvenido Cruz (Ted Cruz's father) decided to get out of Cuba by applying to the University of Texas.
Upon being admitted, he adds, he got a four-year student visa at the U.S. Consulate in Havana.
"Since he liked to eat seven days a week, he worked seven days a week, and he paid his way through the University of Texas," Ted Cruz says of his father, "and then ended up getting a job and eventually going on to start a small business and to work towards the American dream."
Only he did that in Canada, where Ted was born.
His father went there after having earlier obtained political asylum in the U.S. when his student visa ran out.
He then got a green card, he says, and married Ted's mother, an American citizen.
The two of them moved to Canada to work in the oil industry.
"I worked in Canada for eight years," Rafael Cruz says. "And while I was in Canada, I became a Canadian citizen."
The elder Cruz says he renounced his Canadian citizenship when he finally became a U.S. citizen in 2005 48 years after leaving Cuba.
Why did he take so long to do it?"I don't know. I guess laziness, or I don't know," he says.
So there is the law for the time Ted Cruz was born,
AND HOW
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Ted Cruz's PARENTS fulfilled ALL those requirements of the law that time,
for Ted Cruz to be a "Natural Born Citizen".
Ted Cruz did NOT NEED a Court and a Judge to "Nationalize" him.
Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen, said spokeswoman Catherine Frazier.
... The U.S. Constitution allows only a natural born American citizen to serve as president.
Most legal scholars who have studied the question agree that includes an American born overseas to an American parent, such as Cruz.
65 posted on
01/06/2016 10:46:33 PM PST by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: erkelly
Nice try. You took your own definition of natural born citizen and tried to insert it as if the Constitution defined it the same way. Very deceitful.
But the Constitution does not define the term. So the eligibility requirements are: over 35 years old; have lived in the US for at least 14 years, and a natural born citizen. And the VAST majority of legal and constitutional scholars on both sides of the political spectrum do NOT interpret NBC the way that you do. You may disagree, but that is your own opinion, and is certainly not more credible than the array of countervailing opinions.
67 posted on
01/06/2016 11:03:58 PM PST by
CA Conservative
(Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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