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Ted Cruz Might Not Need Trump Supporters
Roll Call ^ | Jan. 5, 2016 | Nathan L. Gonzales

Posted on 01/05/2016 3:46:32 PM PST by Isara

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is poised to absorb Donald Trump's supporters when the billionaire exits the race for the GOP presidential nomination, according to one of the campaign's most common narratives. But how many Trump supporters are open to supporting another candidate?

The quickest analysis of the Republican race divides candidates into distinct establishment and anti-establishment lanes, including lumping Trump, Cruz and Ben Carson supporters together as a monolithic force that is interchangeable between the candidates.

Unsurprisingly, the situation is more complicated.

Both Trump and Cruz have found success in the Republican race by railing against the GOP establishment and there is a tendency to couple their fates because of their outsider message. But part of Trump's appeal is his personality and profile, as evidenced by a December CNN piece, "Trump supporters’ second choice? Trump."

“There isn’t anybody else," 47-year-old Sean Hadley told CNN at a Trump rally in Des Moines. "Everybody else is bought and paid for, no matter what party." Trump supporter Ernie Martin also said he didn't have a second choice because he didn't trust any of the alternatives because "they're all connected to Washington."

Cruz might be able to attract some Trump supporters with his rhetoric and policy positions, but he can't change who he is - a sitting senator, a politician - and who he is not - a successful businessman and celebrity.

In some big ways, Cruz is not identical to Trump - a larger than life candidate who people hope can bring about change and fix what's broken in the country through sheer force of personality, as Yahoo's Jon Ward wrote after spending time talking with Trump supporters in line for a rally last month.

Of course, that evidence is anecdotal, but not necessarily irrelevant. And Trump's support in the polls is undeniable, as is the possibility that he leaves the race before winning the nomination. But identifying precisely how many Trump supporters are amenable to Cruz is challenging.

"We are fighting to be their second choice," one Cruz ally told Roll Call about Trump supporters. "We have a majority of his second choice voters. If he does drop, we, by a majority, are the beneficiary."

A mid-December automated poll of Iowa Republican primary voters by Public Policy Polling, a Democratic firm, backed up that assertion and showed that 36 percent of Trump supporters said Cruz was their second choice. Carson was second with 14 percent while none of the other candidates cracked double digits. Another 14 percent said they were "undecided" on the second choice question.

But, even though Trump outpaced Cruz 28 percent to 25 percent on the primary ballot in that PPP survey, a potentially more important question is whether Cruz needs Trump supporters at all.

According to the Cruz loyalist, the Texas senator is well-positioned in Iowa on Feb. 1 in a lower turnout scenario which includes Republicans who have participated in previous caucuses, without any current Trump supporters.

For example, a December poll by Selzer & Co. for the Des Moines Register showed Cruz with a 31 percent to 21 percent advantage over Trump in the Hawkeye State, followed by the rest of the field.

But Trump performs better in higher turnout scenarios when the pool of participants includes Republicans who have rarely or never participated in a caucus before, and thus deemed unlikely to vote.

"If turnout is up a little bit, we like where we are," according to the Cruz source. "If it's up a lot, it starts to get much stronger for Trump."

Part of that confidence stems from Cruz's effort (and not just Trump's) to attract Republicans who haven't previously been involved. The Carson campaign is appealing to casual Republicans as well.

Of course, the race in Iowa, and subsequent states, will come down to turnout, including Trump's ability to get those infrequent or new Republicans out to vote.

"We still have a significant number of voters that are unlikely to turnout," said the Cruz supporter. "He just has more of them than we do."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: canadian; cruz; ineligible; iowacaucus; tcruz; tedcruz; turnout
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1 posted on 01/05/2016 3:46:32 PM PST by Isara
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To: Isara

Trump/Cruz 2016


2 posted on 01/05/2016 3:47:52 PM PST by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Isara
"If turnout is up a little bit, we like where we are," according to the Cruz source. "If it's up a lot, it starts to get much stronger for Trump."

Then kiss it off because Trump supporters would crawl over broken glass to vote for him.

3 posted on 01/05/2016 3:48:59 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Isara

Good, he can do it without Trump supporters. LOL


4 posted on 01/05/2016 3:49:33 PM PST by dforest
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To: Isara

by “Nathan L. Gonzales”

Look like Ted has the support of the Mexicans.


5 posted on 01/05/2016 3:49:57 PM PST by patq
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To: Isara

Conservatives need to vote the issues, not the man.

Whether the nominee is Cruz or Trump, all conservatives should have no problem voting for either.

Those who have bought into the whole personality cult thing are lost, however.


6 posted on 01/05/2016 3:51:58 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Isara

Presidential Candidates Comparison (Cruz vs. Trump)

Please click on the pictures at the top of the columns for more details on the ratings of the candidates.

green = Good, RED = Bad, yellow = Mixed Ted Cruz Donald Trump
Budget, Spending & Debt green yellow
Civil Liberties green RED
Education green green
Energy & Environment green green
Foreign Policy & Defense green green
Free Market yellow RED
Health Care & Entitlements green RED
Immigration green green
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More at Conservative Review: https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates

7 posted on 01/05/2016 3:52:03 PM PST by Isara
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To: Isara
The Constitution Strikes Back
8 posted on 01/05/2016 3:52:29 PM PST by Isara
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To: Isara

Obviously he doesn’t need any Trump supporters *in Iowa* LOL!
Which is the context of the headline.

But every vote helps.


9 posted on 01/05/2016 3:52:38 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Isara

Yeah, right.


10 posted on 01/05/2016 3:53:19 PM PST by heights
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11 posted on 01/05/2016 3:58:18 PM PST by mkjessup (Islam is the ENEMY of all civilized people. Obama is a Muslim. What's that tell ya?!?)
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To: Isara
But how many Trump supporters are open to supporting another candidate?

I think a fair number of them will sit out the general election if Trump isn't the candidate. He has a lot of support from voters that are former Rats and have a history of low turnout. I hope I'm wrong because Hillary would be a disaster.

12 posted on 01/05/2016 3:58:42 PM PST by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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To: Isara

There’s the Twister board we’ve been waiting for!


13 posted on 01/05/2016 3:59:33 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: Isara

“Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is poised to absorb Donald Trump’s supporters when the billionaire exits the race for the GOP presidential nomination”

I would be one of the first but it ain’t gonna happen.


14 posted on 01/05/2016 3:59:45 PM PST by McGruff (Desperation does not look good on anyone.)
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To: Isara

15 posted on 01/05/2016 4:02:26 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (What good is a constitution if you don't have a country to go with it?)
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To: dforest

Best possible outcome.


16 posted on 01/05/2016 4:04:27 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Isara

“Ted Cruz Might Not Need Trump Supporters”

Cool.

I mean good luck with the swing states.

Guy leads some polls in Iowa and all of a sudden he’s already running for his 2nd term.


17 posted on 01/05/2016 4:05:08 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

I think a lot of the rabid pro-Cruz posts we’re seeing can be classified as “whistling past the political graveyard”.

I like Cruz, I support much of what he stands for, I also support Trump and I would be comfortable voting for either one of those fine gentlemen.

I won’t however, be trashing Ted Cruz like some of his misguided supporters do. Ted Cruz is a classier guy than that, and such behavior gains him no fans, and does him no service.


18 posted on 01/05/2016 4:07:10 PM PST by mkjessup (Islam is the ENEMY of all civilized people. Obama is a Muslim. What's that tell ya?!?)
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To: Isara
Since you like to post worthless images....


19 posted on 01/05/2016 4:07:27 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Trumpee Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: Isara

Iowa doesn’t count


20 posted on 01/05/2016 4:09:40 PM PST by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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