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To: Norm Lenhart

Okay, what did I do to help drive the GOP left? Did I donate to someone who was not a principled conservative? Did I attend their rallies? Did I support them on talk radio? Did I support them here or on Twitter or Facebook. Just exactly what did I do? This is bull****.

I am calling you out as a liar. You are saying things about me that are simply not true. Show me any proof that I somehow helped push the GOP left. That is your preposterous accusation. Any proof whatsoever! What is wrong with you? Stop lying about me and the things in which I believe. I am damned tired of it.

I am wrong on Romney? Who the hell are you? I didn’t support Romney. I reluctantly voted for him because Obama was unthinkable. He is proving it every day. Had Romney won, I would have been all over him in the many areas I disagreed.


90 posted on 01/03/2016 8:04:03 PM PST by doug from upland (Some of you keep telling yourself -- Romney would have been as bad or worse.)
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To: doug from upland

Simple. You did your part with 60,000,000 plus people that you would vote for whatever they threw up no matter how liberal.

They put up a guy that BBQs dead dismembered babies for profit via stericycle. You knew that as you are a poster here. And you did it anyway. Lots of people did. More every day regret it and admitted it was a bad mistake.

You won’t.

Who am I? I am the guy that was 100% right. I am the guy that fought with you and a hundred others here to try to stop that. I am the uy that continues to take liberal shit from the remanants of your failed and destructive choices and will do it gladly because the truth matters whether you admit it or not.


93 posted on 01/03/2016 8:08:11 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: doug from upland
And all the jackasses who did not do everything they could to keep Obama from a second term is having unbelievable consequences for the country.

People didn't vote for the lesser evil as president in 2012. Clearly, the lesser evil would have been Romney. Unfortunately, a real conservative was not going to win in Nov. 2012. I didn't want Romney, but either he or Obama would be president. Too many idiots stayed home or voted 3rd party instead of stopping Obama.

So I guess in this case, as far as the presidency is concerned, since the lesser evil was not actually elected, it blows the hell out of your comment. You will not get an argument when it comes to Congress.

~sigh~

With what we now know about the uniparty who could possibly be such a bitter clinger to the proposition that someone NOT voting for a GOPe dope is a jackass? Besides, only a jackass would call fellow FReepers jackasses. Very disappointing. Even if you truly believe you are right, you know you are going to piss off a lot of people. But you are not right.

The dominant enabling factor keeping the GOPe alive is their expected automatic lesser-of-two-evils voting drone. It is their lifeline. It is the very reason they do not run Conservative candidates. They see you as a useful idiot and you apparently don't care. Well that's your perogative. Facts have just not caught up with you yet, but countless others have figured it out and are no longer falling for this kabuki dance. Lead, follow or get out of the way.

Just out of curiosity, do you follow the lesser-of-two-evils in your personal life? One babysitter is a klepto and another is a pyromaniac, who's better? If your daughter is deciding between a drug-dealing rapper homeboy or a deadhead stoner do you pick one? Or, your son is torn between the crack whore next door and the captain of the boys track team? Or you're buying a car. Or a House. There's a million things like that you would never settle for the lesser evil, demand a higher standard or walk away, and you know it. Yet here we have the highest office in the land and you wonder why people do the same? They are not shirking their duty, they are doing it.

But not everyone was fighting GOPe in 2012. There were a multitude of problems going in, and it is amazing that anyone felt Romney was a good choice. Two opponents, not one, but both with questionable NBC status. The father of Romneycare vs the father of Odumbocare! That yanks two issues right off the table. The GOPe thought it wise to push a Mormon even though a far more numerous Catholic barely squeaked by in 1960. The killer is that the Natural-Born-Muslim calls himself a Christian so he probably peeled away Christians from the Mormon dude! You really can't make this sh!t up. And you really wonder why many stayed home? Maybe you should consider the possibility that the GOPe never intended on winning. We know Mitt believed this since he refused to bet his own money on himself and took taxpayer funds and donations.

But here is the fact that must have never crossed your mind. From January 20 1977 until January 20 1981 there were people talking like you. Especially during the 444 days that 52 hostages were covered on the nightly news. Damn those people who stayed home and gave us Jimmuh! But guess what? Without peanut boy the entire timeline changes and Reagan may never see the White House.

That means if Romney won in 2012 we not only would get all the same Socialism with some lipstick applied. Moreover, Hillary would be a shoe-in this year. We would also lose all possibility of destroying GOPe today and get an outsider down there. Let's just not make the same mistake and not double-tap the GOPe when they are wounded this time around, finish them off so they never rise again like they did during Reagan's 2nd term and beyond.

If you really want to know what's happening, think of it as Kirk's solution to the Kobayashi Maru no-win scenario. The people are saying Screw this and reprogramming the computer. Or, you can let the Klingons and Romulans continue their charade.

223 posted on 01/04/2016 11:16:11 AM PST by Democratic-Republican
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To: doug from upland; Norm Lenhart
doug -- what did you do to help drive the GOP left? You did the same thing I did. Exactly the same thing I did and why I accept responsibility for pushing the GOP left when I voted for Arnold, Meg Whitman, Dubya, McCain, and who knows how many left-leaning Republicans over the decades -- those were stupid votes and I regret them.

Doug, you actively move things left when you vote for leftists.

Stop doing that. Start voting for what you want to win. Start voting to move things right if that is what you want to win.

When you voted for Romney, no matter what you tell yourself, you voted for a Gay Youth Pride-loving Republican president who fathered Obamacare and was wholly sympathetic to the environmentalist "climate change" agenda. If he had won, that is what "we" would have won. Keep on voting for that, and things will continue to move left.

NUTS.

234 posted on 01/04/2016 4:26:08 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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