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To: Wpin

You are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to make up your own set of facts. The defendants were originally convicted on the terrorism charges. The appeal did not change that, and indeed, the defendants chose to not appeal their conviction on that charge.

There were only two questions on appeal. 1) did the prosecutor waive its right to appeal the sentence and 2) was the sentence within the limits established by Congress for the crime for which they were convicted.

In this case, the militia crowd seems to be doing their best to prove that they are the ignorant loudmouths that their detractors paint them to be. (Some may know better, and just be less than effective liars). They have shown that they don’t understand ex post facto, double jeopardy, or 9th grade civics. They don’t understand the structure of the courts, criminal procedure, or separation of powers.


244 posted on 01/03/2016 2:24:22 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35
The defendants were originally convicted on the terrorism charges.

Incorrect. I have found that this was false. See my above.

263 posted on 01/03/2016 3:19:29 PM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: PAR35

Your legalistic views do not apply any longer. There is no real rule of law when the government abuses it so badly. There was no arson, no act of terrorism. That is a lie, just because the Hammonds have been reluctant to fight the government does not imply the good will of the government. They burned weeds and grass to create a fire break because it was very dry that year. Most of the land which was burned was their own private land. The BLM was using the same techniques that year, it is good land management to prevent wider destruction by wild fires.

The Hammonds were tried by your government, they were convicted by your government and they served the sentence, period. There is no more to the story...they served their time honorably and were released. Then comes along some Federal “judge” who claims they have to go back to prison. It really does not matter if what that judge says is legal Par35, it is unjust and tyrannical. The original sentence was way harsher than the “crime” was.

You are just going to have to get used to the fact that there are more and more Americans who no longer give authority to your government to rule.

You really should be more respectful to the militia who are there defending the rights of Americans. Your incapability to understand what is really going on is no excuse. They are there fighting for American freedom from a tyrannical government.

Your court systems are corrupt and meaningless in terms of justice and law. Your government no longer has the right to govern. That is where the state of the nation is at Par35...so, go one and keep spewing your bullshit as you watch everything you believe in destroyed.

Or, recognize the injustice and illegality of this government and be a patriot. The choice is fully yours to make at this point in time.


351 posted on 01/03/2016 9:39:16 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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