Posted on 01/03/2016 9:31:09 AM PST by Lazamataz
Try it on camera then get back to me.
Perhaps the Bundy’s cut a deal with the Feds after the last Nevada standoff.
Or maybe they have an FBI agent as an agitator in their own midst.
Regardless, what they are doing is *precisely* what Obama needs to happen for his looming anti-gun Executive Order.
Which is to say, this is a setup.
A Reichstag Fire.
Incorrect. I have found that this was false. See my above.
I think that I maintain a healthy suspicion towards the government, especially over the last 7 years. And sad to say I can see where government abuses could, and should, lead to armed defiance. But if and when that time comes it should be for valid and incontrovertible reasons. This ain’t it.
Read the whole story thread and you will begin to understand. The land owners have litigated, pleaded, begged, bargained and the feds will not stop until they take everyones land.
Been on camera making extemporaneous remarks — good ones. Changed local laws. Been in front of government councils. No big whoop, and I’m not special.
No terrorism prosecution. Check my confirmatiom upthread.
Yep.
But gubmint doesn't like people who get 'er done without them.
GOOD FREAKIN JOB, now add a little that identifies this as the current Bundy situation (town or forest name plus date) and you have a winner.
I've read it. It is a classic case of a Soviet-style prosecution. Problem is, the story is tl;dr, which, in internet slang, means 'too long; didn't read'. 99% of the people won't follow this one along. We need a simpler, more concrete case. Even this one, if it was rewritten to a single paragraph. Maybe I should be the one to write that. I pride myself on brevity.
There, however, appears to be a 'defense of necessity', in that a fire was advancing to the property and there needed to be a break-fire to stop it. There is no 'defense of necessity' in the court system, perhaps there needs to be.
Replace the word 'maybe' with 'definitely' and we can agree.
What image do you get from "convicted terrorists and arsonists"? Some jackwagon burning down schools, apartment buildings, looking to scam insurance agencies?
I'd bet it isn't some guy who set some grass and brush on fire by accident. I bet it isn't some guy who set a fire to stop one, and succeeded.
Playing into this meme of the "white, christian, rural, domestic terrorist" all the way.
Even the Muslims in San Bernadino were not called "terrorists" and they shot up a Christmas Party and tried to set off bombs.
See the images the words paint? See where they don't paint those images?
There is a pattern there.
If people on these threads can’t figure it out at this point, a better meme won’t help them.
If you sit down and a poker table and you can’t figure out who is the mark, YOU are the mark.
Don’t be played like a fool, is my point. Be smarter than a buffalo.
See 267.
Not talking about the people on the threads HERE, they are already in-the-know. The improved text would be for the unaware on Facebook.
Add M.O.V.E. and Gordon Kahl to the list.
Did they go for the higher charge to force a plea bargain on a lesser charge?
Maybe, but if so, isn't that a fundamental subversion of jurisprudence?
Throw the book at someone so they will cave and waive any rights to save time/money? Is that justice or just a cheap imitation?
When you get right down to it, a jury is only as good as its members. They are charged by the judge to rule on the application of facts in the case they have not been told to disregard and to apply it narrowly to the law. They are told to ignore jury nullification, if they are so much as aware of that.
I'm not for a dictatorship, but recognize (especially nowadays) the weaknesses inherent in the jury system.
The intent was that while some guilty parties might walk, innocent ones would not be convicted.
That these charges were made as 'terrorism' charges would imply not only intent, malice and forethought, but the intent to cause terror. So who was terrorized?
Now, to do away with sovereign immunity for the government-lit wildfires and polluted rivers.
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