Posted on 01/03/2016 5:07:32 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
Oh really? Bull! You were doing good then you had to add your denominational religious bias.
..and John Wimber a Dominionist. Bull again!
I know a lot of young believers who are part of IHOP and I have heard a lot of Mike Bickles teaching. Your claims are bull these are serious young believers who are serious about Jesus and worship and intercessory prayer. Salt of the earth Godly believers, not positive confession or prosperity gospel goats.
I also know a lot of fine Vineyard church people and Pastors, again good faithful Christians not Dominionists, nor is John Wimber. A Vineyard church in my city gives a ministry I founded and lead free use of their building which has impacted our city with the gospel of Jesus Christ for decades. The head Pastor of that Vineyard church is probably the most humble, down to earth Christlike man have ever met.
Too bad you had something worth pondering and then you smeared your religious prejudice all over it! Now everything you write will be questionable to me after this crap.
Well your belief isn't grounded in reality.
If Trump said "I believe marriage is between a man and a women REGARDLESS of the Law of the Land", then that would please me.
See? Simple.
But he WON'T say that -- because it's not what the Der Uberherd wants to hear him bleating in paid announcements during this season's episodes of American Idolatry and Dancing with the Perverts in between commercials for Beer, Erectile Dysfunction, Sleeping Pills, and Depends.
Funny I saw only Romney or the Muslim on the ballot not 60,000,000 options. You are quite an insulter which makes it hard to listen to and evaluate your opinions. The negative insults don’t help.
Your ballot had more than 2 options on it an likely a write in slot. Thats a fact.
Computer screen ballots offer write in? Legitimate question asking for response not attack.
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/wimber.html
I know a lot of young believers who are part of IHOP
They should leave. Even without the Dominionism, IHOP is a heretical mess of false signs and wonders.
There are provisions for every state with a write in possibility.
That's true for some of those goofy scenes, but not the ones I referenced in the thread, so it's more desperation on your part to minimize it.
It's part of a larger pattern of padding the resume with "one-man" outfits and shifting biographical information.
I didn't put it there, so some one else must have.
Therein lies your life's problem. Also noteworthy is the intentional misspelling of Christianity. Seen that before.
That's obviously not the same thing. But the scripture is quite clear in its condemnation of the public prayer of the Pharisees-- who made a show of it. That is what is being done when Cruz does multiple takes to get scenes of prayer just right for a political ad.
Thanks for that post!
But it wasn’t in any way aggrandizing for the father to be listed as both director and president—that was required by Texas law. Sure, the Dad may (or may not) be aggrandizing—but that in itself does not reflect poorly on Ted.
It's weird that you would identify yourself as "Director of Kingdom Translations" when signing up for a speaking event. It obviously gives a false impression. All that said, the argument does not stand or fall on the Kingdom example.
I don't know much about them and in fact I didn't mention them, so your stupid attempt at deflection is useless.
The issue is this: prosperity preachers suck unless they're fawning over Trump, and you're unable to defend that double standard.
"OK, I get it.
Tell me why Cruzers/Cruzettes avoid their messiah’s questionable record including:
Cruz supporters recognize that, decent man and good guy though he is, we're looking to hire him to do a job. We respect him, but we don't idolize him. For that kind of thing, you might want to check out Trump threads, where his supporters keen in ecstasy over him, wail about the "Trump of God", and write songs of praise to him.
Or if they're not transported by some kind of quasi-religious fervor, they're acting like a bunch of teenaged girls gushing over their idol.
Cruz votes for TPA Cruz votes for Corker bill that gave Iran NUKES Cruz supports Pathway Amnesty - avoids using the word “Deportation†Cruz joined his BFF Glen Beck in passing out teddy bears to ILLEGAL ALIENS crossing into America Cruz, the polite Hahvard debater will be eaten alive by Hellry and marxist media Cruz has no chance to win Reagan Democrats, black Americans Cruz has ZERO experience at building & running a successful business Cruz is ultimately controlled by his financial sugar daddies
LOL
TRUMP is the ONLY candidate with the uber-successful record of business building and creating jobs
TRUMP is the ONLY candidate that can be a street fighter to save America and the Constitution
Just wondering---is there a reason some of you can't post Trump's name without using all caps? It's a fan thing, right? Does he get you that excited?
You can try to prop up that progressive liar all you want. Four years ago I heard the old line about needing a business man/executive to get the country back on track; it was just as full of BS then as it is now.
We need a Constitutional conservative--Ted Cruz. After he wins the nomination, the old Manhattanite can go back to his penthouse and build some buildings and do a few Howard Stern interviews.
You just posted that pic upthread. Do you think it’s going to have any more effect by spamming it again?
Hey, I know! Maybe if you yell TRUMP!
Cruz isn’t perfect. Perfection sits at the right hand of God.
But Cruz is the most solid Constitutional conservative we could ask for.
Your candidate, on the other hand, is a progressive sleaze who’s been *cough* “conservative” for six months, because he says so.
The choice is clear.
LOL - as an Alinsky response, not too bad...but needs some additional work.
Sundance didn’t write this, Puny Human did. Sundance made some good points, but Puny Human went berserk adding his religious denominational prejudices. Puny doesn’t get that he has hurt Trump here instead of asking questions on Cruz’s beliefs which are valid questions, Puny has painted himself as one who belongs to the only acceptable ‘Christian” camp, the rest of us are heretics, Charismatics stand out as Christians Puny doesn’t like and Trump has lots of Charismatic supporters.
I know you CJ are a Cruz supporter and I remain a Trump supporter but I will vote Cruz in election no problem and nothing Puny just wrote here changes that. I don’t believe based on this Cruz is a religious wacko for a second.
BTW Greetings_Puny_Humans, what denomination are you exactly?
Your whole bit belittling the dad for his legal Texas listing of his little apparent side business (and tax write off?) was both petty and ignorant.
Charismatic Christianity isn’t my cup of tea. And yes, Cruz’s preacherly style and associations thereof could well turn off a good deal of moderates and independents especially outside the bible belt. That’s why I’d rather see him get voted in as Trump’s veep. Trump does quite well with those demographics in which Cruz is likely weak. Perry’s similar ties BTW were off-putting as well.
Cruz plays the religious angle up in part, I imagine, because that’s the primary interest of his largest donor. As the VP in a Trump Administration, I imagine Cruz would learn to tone it down and would also come to identify as representing all Americans, not just Texas Republicans. He also would be well positioned to run for a third Trump term without depending on backers who are largely religiously motivated.
But I don’t see anything wrong with a not-my-cup-of-tea denomination of Christianity believing that they should take their Christ-led selves out to contribute to the world in part by earning leadership positions not only in politics, but also atop the rest of the Seven Mountains.
We lived with Romney’s Mormonism and I imagine we can live with Cruz’s whatever it is.
But I hate to see the Cruz/Trump wars on this site get too vicious. The best of all worlds will have them together running as Trump/Cruz at the end and sowing bitterness among similarly conservative Freepers along the way IMO is counterproductive.
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