Posted on 01/02/2016 7:30:04 AM PST by Isara
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This is precisely what Donald Trump, national GOP front-runner but second place in Iowa, told an Iowa crowd this week while stumping for votes.
Just remember this -- you gotta remember, in all fairness, to the best of my knowledge, not too many evangelicals come out of Cuba, okay? Just remember that ... just remember.
...We will not dedicate time, space or energy to parsing those words in ways that might offer some alternative meaning than the one most evident and likely, which would be this: Donald Trump thought it would advance his political aims if voters in Iowa were reminded that Ted Cruz is a Cuban (technically half-Cuban) and/or cast doubt on whether Cruz is a true evangelical.
This comes from the the ever-useful section of campaign play books that say tell voters why your competition is "not like us."
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First, Donald Trump's knowledge of the Cuban religious diaspora is, apparently, limited and outdated.
In Cuba right now, Protestant and Protestant Evangelical churches are experiencing rapid membership growth. In the United States, Latino-Americans with ancestral and direct links to many different Latin American countries, including Cuba, are driving some of the only growth in many Protestant denominations. Latino evangelicals represent the fastest-growing religious group in the United States. Some are Cuban-American evangelicals.
To be clear, the majority of American Latinos are Catholic. But the share who are Catholic slid from 67 percent in 2006 to 59 percent in 2013....
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Finally, Ted Cruz is a self-identified evangelical and the son of an evangelical -- and many would say extremely conservative -- Cuban-American pastor. We have no more reason or authority to doubt that than Donald Trump's declarations that he is a life-long practicing Christian, even if he cannot name a Bible verse. That is between Trump and his God.
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When did Ted Cruz support TPP which has not even been voted on and to which he as adamantly opposed?
You are right!
“Cruz took money from homosexual Republicans. So?”
That would be called “filthy lucre” in the Bible.
Trump is on record that he supports traditional marriage for now but is “evolving.â€
You made that up out of whole cloth.
“His wife posed naked with another woman for a photo shoot.”
That was before Trump married her. Nothing to do with Trump.
“And you, as a Southern Baptist, support that. You want it to lead the nation.”
What is “it”? “support that”? Are you sinless? Look to your own past.
“See, you really need to learn that you can’t get up on that moral high horse when you support Trump.”
Cruz has the moral high horse monopolized, along with you and his other disciples. There is no more room.
I support a candidate who does not buy in to the Obama agenda with his VOTES.
Yes, you get it! That’s awesome...welcome aboard.
Of course I knew that would be the response. Your kind really isn’t very original.
I know, though, that those links I posted hit their target. You were quite shrill about them upthread.
I suspect you folks are far more worried that you let on here.
Cruz is coming.
Didn’t read the links or post upthread, sorry Catherine. I think you have Trump supporter confusion...It’s ok, I understand...there are a lot of us. Just let go and join the movement! You might enjoy yourself and not be so sullen...
Regards this particular question asked of him, and no doubt a gotcha question, my personal answer would have been, "that is my business, next question" because it in fact is mine and mine alone, to share with the Lord, personally.
You can and do make comments regards his answer, fair game, but to say that someone, anyone, needs to ask the Lord for forgiveness, daily, and then needs to provide proof, is a bit of a stretch, and that was my point.
.I will give the poster the benefit of the doubt and say he/she was caught up in the moment.
Regards this particular race, I would be so effin happy to see Cruz elected, and I would be thrilled if Trump blew DC and the RNC/DNC to smithereens.
Oh, and just to be sure, I do not pray for either one to win, as my Lord already knows this outcome and every other outcome in my lifetime. I figure this one is on us to straighten out.
For your reading/listening enjoyment...another arena full of Trump supporters...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3379070/posts
When did Ted Cruz support TPP which has not even been voted on and to which he as adamantly opposed?
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On May 22, 2015 Senator Cruz voted “yes” for TPA. TPA would’ve been a fast track for TPP. Cruz and Paul Ryan did a joint Wall Street Journal op-ed touting this POS legislation. Remember that?
The fact that Obama was pushing TPA/TPP/TAA should’ve been Cruz’s first clue this was a disaster! Sorry, but on this matter, Ted Cruz is full of sh*t!
BTW, Donald Trump has never been a politician, and never voted on anything affecting American’s lives! Ted Cruz is a sitting U.S. Senator who voted for TPA!
So, in your world, only Ted Cruz can change his position? You folks are hypocrites!
And what is wrong with making that appeal? If you have values that are important and you would like to see represented in government, and the candidate shares those values and also wants to represent them in government, what is wrong with asking for support on that basis? Trump does the exact same thing on the immigration issue - you want something done about illegal immigration, he wants something done about illegal immigration, and he wants you to vote for him based on those shared "values". Is it only because the value Ted is talking about are CHRISTIAN values that you have a problem?
He was saying, "If you vote Christian values, you will have to vote for me. My campaign and Christian values are the same."
Not even close. Just your own twisted interpretation of what is a fairly straight-forward request for support based on shared goals and values.
LOL, as though St. Trump's money is clean.
"You made that up out of whole cloth."
You can easily google it, but you won't. And if you do, it won't make any difference to you.
"That was before Trump married her. Nothing to do with Trump."
The kind of person you choose to marry has nothing to do with you, LOL? Wow...you're twisting yourself into a pretzel to support the sleaze. How does it feel...really? Deep down?
Don't get me wrong, she's the perfect sort for him. But sure as hell nothing I want in the White House.
"What is “it� “support that� Are you sinless? Look to your own past."
Oh, you're on the verge of the classic, timeworn liberal tactic of misusing the "don't judge" Scripture. Amazing.
I'm not running for president and I'm looking to vet the candidates who want to sit in the Oval Office. If he's a sleaze, he's out.
"Cruz has the moral high horse monopolized, along with you and his other disciples. There is no more room."
Another typical progressive response---defensiveness and accusation of self-righteousness to try and attack Christian values.
And you a self-described Christian. How does it feel, to have fallen to this low level in order to support Trump?
"I support a candidate who does not buy in to the Obama agenda with his VOTES."
Yeah, Trump is more moral than Cruz.
But it's not a cult.
Oh, and BTW, full disclosure, I have placed a bet on Trump taking it all the way, with 7:1 odds.
You responded to the post with the links and have been responding ever since, nitwit.
Wow, you’re trolling me...I’m honored. See the Missouri poll? Cheers.
TPA is not TPP. Not one has voted for TPP. It hasn't been voted on yet and Ted Cruz is totally opposed to it.
Next?
Wrong. TPA is fast track for trade agreements, not specifically for TPP. And every president since at least Reagan has had TPA - this is not some new power granted to Obama. And if TPA was specifically intended to show TPP down our throats, then how have they been able to prevent TPP from being passed? So obviously, it is possible to be for TPA and against TPP.
By the way - did you realize that most of the opposition to TPA came from liberal Democrats? So it seems somehow appropriate that Trumps supporters are joining Democrats again to oppose Cruz.
I’m getting tire of your crap, so all I will say is that I did google Trump’s view on gay marriage. Could find nothing like what you said, at all,so I would have to say your lied through your teeth. If not, send me where you found it. You must be the only one who knows it.
LOL, no doubt
" so all I will say is that I did google Trump’s view on gay marriage. Could find nothing like what you said, at all,so I would have to say your lied through your teeth. If not, send me where you found it. You must be the only one who knows it.
But I'll bet you didn't google "trump gay marriage evolving", did you? Which is what I said.
If you're too stupid to do that yourself, then live in your ignorance. Your kind slays me, yelling "liar" when the truth about your liberal candidate comes to light.
That's one thing on which I disagree with Cruz. But he is the best candidate still running by such a wide margin that I'm willing to set that aside. I don't make excuses for Cruz at all, not one little bit.
Now, do you agree with every position Trump has taken in the last few years?
Every single one??
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