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Pentagon's women-in-combat push faces chilly headwinds
The Hill ^ | December 30, 2015 | Rebecca Kheel

Posted on 12/30/2015 9:52:39 AM PST by jazusamo

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To: goldstategop
Women are smaller and lighter than men and have less physical strength.
Women also have a lower bone density than men which will lead to more traumatic injuries - and they will occur at the worst time.
21 posted on 12/30/2015 10:13:39 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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The physical differences aside, men are instinctively “protective” of women...It has been this way forever...It is a born instinct...A combat warrior may have trouble keeping his focus where it should be because of the very presence of a woman...It is something that really can’t be helped.

That protective instinct can and will prevent a combat team from focusing ENTIRELY on their objective....


22 posted on 12/30/2015 10:16:19 AM PST by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: jazusamo; All

I’m an Army Vet and women do NOT belong in direct combat. I was in a supporting role for many years; moving bullets, beans and gasoline up to the front lines. That was MORE than enough, thank you!

It’s a different world today and our current enemies are sneaky, blood-thirsty, brainwashed savages. Nuke them from above and be done with it!


23 posted on 12/30/2015 10:16:26 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: grobdriver
The only place where I've ever seen a woman winning in hand to hand combat against men is . . . . in the movies . . . .


24 posted on 12/30/2015 10:17:19 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: max americana

Word.


25 posted on 12/30/2015 10:17:52 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: oh8eleven
Women are smaller and lighter than men and have less physical strength. Women also have a lower bone density than men which will lead to more traumatic injuries - and they will occur at the worst time.

That is true. Israel tried this in the late 40's and early 50's. It didn't work then and it won't work now.

Besides the knee and back injuries, there are the internal problems, such as prolapsed uterus' due to the extreme physical demands that combat might make, just to name one.

26 posted on 12/30/2015 10:19:31 AM PST by Parmy
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To: Gay State Conservative

The only way women make it into open combat is by lowering standards.

And few women can compete at a male standard of endurance. They get washed out of training.

Feminist dogma simply can’t compete with the fact women can’t do some jobs because they call for strength/endurance/fitness levels that are far above their pay grade.

Denying reality doesn’t change the point that some jobs aren’t open to women for sound reasons that have nothing to do with sex discrimination.

But try explaining the facts of life to the Left.


27 posted on 12/30/2015 10:19:50 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tumblindice
A 110 pound woman? OK. A lot of fit men weigh twice that can women pull their weight? Its a categorical question: can a 110 pound woman drag an unconscious 200 pound man by his ruck strap a few feet out of harms way? Put another away, can she sling him on her back and carry him a hundred yards? Yes or no.

People keep falling back onto the physical standards. That's the hard stuff.

How about we start with the easy stuff: all women in the military get high and tight haircuts.

Then I'll take all this equality BS seriously.

28 posted on 12/30/2015 10:20:27 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: PeteB570
And her explanation of why there are no females on the Army, Navy and Air Force service academy foot ball squads is .............

Sexism.

29 posted on 12/30/2015 10:20:42 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: jazusamo

Republican candidates can easily throw a lug wrench into this disaster by quietly pledging to “restore the military with a focus on mission accomplishment, and no longer to encourage, support, require, or demand further experimentation or social engineering with the lives of our service members.”

Behind the scenes this means to throw out the homosexuals, freaks, deviants, *and* those that supported and support them, to make all combat occupations male only, with strict limits in combat support roles.

It also likewise means to make a revision to the UCMJ about all issues concerning such people, making its purpose once again to be all about “the maintenance of good order and discipline in the military.”


30 posted on 12/30/2015 10:21:05 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thank you, my FRiend. I’d wager the vast majority of women in the military feel exactly as you, many years ago Mrs. jaz was a WAC and she feels the same.


31 posted on 12/30/2015 10:22:26 AM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin....and the turkey has.)
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To: jazusamo

There is only one way to have women in combat. Make sure it’s an all female company. That might work out well. I believe women can be equally as lethal as men, I just don’t want 1000s of years of inherrited response to get our guys killed when a female gets taken out. Also could you imagine the psyops win when an all female company takes out a bunch of muzzy dirt bags?


32 posted on 12/30/2015 10:24:23 AM PST by phs3 (FUBO)
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To: jazusamo
"They feel what makes them special is being all male,..."

Bull$#!t They feel what makes them special is being damn good at their jobs.

33 posted on 12/30/2015 10:24:50 AM PST by pfflier
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To: jazusamo
"...The toughest part of the integration, which President Obama and Defense Secretary Ashton Carter have made a priority in their final year in office, will be overcoming deep-seated opposition among many male special forces commandos..."

One would hope that among sane, rational, people the toughest part would be actually fielding a combat force that comes anywhere close to what the current/past forces were capable of in individual combat.

But these are not sane, rational people, and neither are their goals.

34 posted on 12/30/2015 10:24:54 AM PST by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: Gay State Conservative
It was claimed at the outset that the men and women were doing the *exact* same things and that both were being held to the same standards.
I remember seeing that and I don't believe the women were held to the same strength requirements (pull ups, sit ups, running, etc.).
Regardless, it was just sickening for me (as a former Marine) to watch the women try to act like men.
35 posted on 12/30/2015 10:26:23 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Parmy
due to the extreme physical demands that combat might make
No "might" about it - I've been there, it was incredibly demanding and unrelenting.
36 posted on 12/30/2015 10:29:57 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: rlmorel
But these are not sane, rational people, and neither are their goals.

Well said! You nailed it and it comes from the current CinC and his handlers on down to his appointed lapdogs.

37 posted on 12/30/2015 10:35:07 AM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin....and the turkey has.)
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To: oh8eleven

Neither the President nor the SecDefense has ever served a day in uniform.

They hate the military and want to transform it into another social service agency.

You have to be dumb, deaf and blind not to appreciate where they’re going.


38 posted on 12/30/2015 10:35:37 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jazusamo; flat; unkus; vette6387; mazda77; freekitty; HarleyLady27; ZULU; overbore; JLAGRAYFOX; ...

How about the Administration and Congress in combat? Regardless of age or gender, how about sending all of DC to Afganistan for a dose of reality as to their rules of engagement and what it takes to win when politicians play games while sitting in their cushy offices paid for by the American people??


39 posted on 12/30/2015 10:35:54 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: rlmorel

NOT sane??

Really?

The Female warriors will be rough and tough lesbians-

Trained in hand to hand combat by the likes of

Bruce (Caitlyn) Jenner— psyops taught by Dennis rodman-

how to infiltrate rear areas by GENERAL! Robbie Bergdahl-

how can you say not sane-

LOL-SARC

This country is really being taken over by the leftists


40 posted on 12/30/2015 10:36:38 AM PST by mj1234
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