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Don’t Let Hillary Draft Your Daughter
Townhall ^ | December 28, 2015 | Katie Kieffer

Posted on 12/27/2015 9:12:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: A Navy Vet
I'd like to join Commander Riker in applauding your most excellent post:


61 posted on 12/28/2015 6:05:52 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Ann Archy

I guess it’s okay to discriminate by sex, as long as we’re talking about putting unpleasant obligations on boys. It’s only the Nice Things that have to be passed out equally to everyone, or else.


62 posted on 12/28/2015 6:10:41 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’ll never have another Draft. The elites won’t be able to get away with exempting their children ever again.


63 posted on 12/28/2015 6:10:52 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: A Navy Vet

I share your sentiment.


64 posted on 12/28/2015 6:11:09 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Old Sarge

“until the proof came out she was a DNC plant.”

That would explain the look.


65 posted on 12/28/2015 6:26:04 AM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: TigerClaws

I have to agree. Too many people stood by and allowed this P.C.B.S. to occur and more than a few women fully supported it. Want the same opportunities as a man? Then incur the same responsibilities and obligations - at least until someone pulls our collective heads out of our asses.

Maybe when soccer moms and dads have to start registering their daughters with Selective Service, the reality of the situation will set in with at least a few of them.


66 posted on 12/28/2015 6:44:47 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“No one has been drafted since 1973.”

Within 10 years we will have the draft again but it won’t be just for the military. First step will be to require women to register. Then progressives will begin beating the drum for compulsory national community service for all 18 year olds, probably combined with free college education to follow. The groundwork was laid for this over the past 20 years as high schools and some colleges have instituted community service requirements for graduation (i.e. compulsory community service).

I can see the day coming when all 18 year olds are drafted. Some will go to the military which by then will be a progressive indoctrination organization. Some will go to Americorps, Job Corps, and to be created Green Corps. Others will be outsourced to be government paid foot soldiers for progressive non-profits such as Planned Parenthood, the Sierra Club, the Urban League, the Southern Poverty Law Center and Black Lives Matter. Some may even be assigned to urban police forces.

Two years of compulsory government paid political indoctrination followed by four government paid years being indoctrinated in progressive universities. By age 24 our youth will be good foot soldiers for the socialist state. The 10% of the population that resists indoctrination can be sent to reeducation camps or be exterminated for the good of the state.

Utopia is coming. Even Al Sharpton supports the reinstitution of the draft. It isn’t hard to understand why.


67 posted on 12/28/2015 7:12:01 AM PST by Soul of the South (Tomorrow is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For over 40 years, Hillary Clinton has been pushing to put women in combat and now she's close to succeeding "whether women like it or not".

Funny how all the most outspoken idiots for abortion or women in combat are all well past their 'expiration date' (Hillary, Pelosi, Boxer, Steinem, etc)

68 posted on 12/28/2015 7:40:17 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Ann Archy

If the draft were limited to lefty women you’d have a point. If you want non lefty daughters and granddaughters forced into the feminist agenda and required to sign up with draft boards, then you’re a lefty yourself, whether you realize it or not


69 posted on 12/28/2015 7:52:33 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Wolfie

Sure the elites will be able to get away with exempting their kids. Their supporters among the lower classes won’t object. Freepers didn’t object that nobody in the bush or Cheney families has served in the Iraq era military. In act, when some people have posted concerns about this fact, freepers have derided them Likewise, no Dems ever suggest Chelsea should have enlisted, even though her mom was hung ho for every US war over the past 15 years


70 posted on 12/28/2015 7:58:41 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: MrEdd

The draft is different from freely chosen occupations

Also, making women eligible for the draft has ALWAYS been near the top of leftist feminists’ agenda. They want to force all women - even the no feminists - into the feminist agenda. Incredibly, a lot of self professed conservatives at free republic support this feminist goal, and favor forcing all women. - including traditionalist, no feminist women - to be forced by the government to sign up for selective service. The feminists must be pinching themselves when they see how they’ve succeeded in getting ‘conservatives’ to support their cause


71 posted on 12/28/2015 8:05:40 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Campion

You want to force the feminist agenda on all women, I see. - including women who don’t support it and who want to be mothers. Instead, you want them drafted into the Obama-McCain military. How’conservative’ of you


72 posted on 12/28/2015 8:09:30 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII
No, I'd like liberals to be self-consistent within their own philosophy for a change, instead of picking and choosing. It's easy to be in favor of something if you get to cherry-pick only the good consequences and foist the bad consequences off on some innocent party.

But I don't see how registration "forces" any "agenda" on the person registering. (I never said I was in favor of drafting women, or anyone else, please note. I think a draft is only a good idea in extremis, e.g., World War II.)

What "agenda" is "forced" on boys by making them register? Please, I'd like to know; I trooped off to the post office like everybody else to sign my card on my eighteenth birthday. What "agenda" was being "forced" on me?

And, incidentally, I have "skin" in this "game," because I have two teenage daughters.

73 posted on 12/28/2015 8:23:31 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: WilliamIII
Another point. In World War II, there was -- according to my mother, who lived through it -- a "draft" implemented through peer pressure. If you were able, you contributed to the war effort, or you were considered a freak and ostracized to some extent.

Young women were not exempt. In my mother's case, she left the farm (and keep in mind, she had never been more than 15 miles or so from there), and went off to the big city of Minneapolis, MN, to work a factory job making gunsights for the Navy.

She was lonely there. She had to learn to do things like catch a city bus to work. She lived through it. Did it ruin her life? No. Were the evil feminists "forcing" their "agenda" on her? Not so much, in 1943.

74 posted on 12/28/2015 8:32:42 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: Soul of the South

The Left has always seen the military as the biggest government social program there is.


75 posted on 12/28/2015 8:37:35 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Campion

I’d like liberals to be self-consistent within their own philosophy for a change

That’s not the way I read your position. You don’t want to confine Selective Service to liberal women. Like gloria steinem and other feminist theorists, you want to compell ALL women to sign up for selective service. And in today’s military, if they’re eventually drafted, they might have to answer to a transgender officer. You’re very “conservative” - not - in joining arms with the feminists’ agenda.


76 posted on 12/28/2015 8:57:36 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

You’re kind of new around here, aren’t you.


77 posted on 12/28/2015 9:18:10 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Black Agnes

hmm...? black agnes, please tell me more about these black knights and how they have more fun than the white knights. i myself am totally in the dark on the topic. enquiring minds want to know! personally i am just a lowly serf and with respect to knighthood (be it whatever color), i merely only received a card and a lottery number. :-P :-)


78 posted on 12/28/2015 9:39:22 AM PST by SteveH
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To: TigerClaws

Women should never be registered for the draft. Period.


79 posted on 12/28/2015 9:53:24 AM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For over 40 years, Hillary Clinton has been pushing to put women in combat and now she's close to succeeding—whether women like it or not.

Your daughter or granddaughter could soon be compelled to register with the Selective Service at the age of 18 alongside all American males. Today, I'll share what you need to know to confront Hillary and Obama's unconstitutional and unscientific approach to fighting the phony War on Women and the real War on ISIS.

In 1975, at the age of 27, Hillary was the newly-married wife of Bill Clinton and a law school teacher when she claims to have been rejected by a Marine Corps recruiter because of her age and because "you're a woman."

The New York Times reported in 1994 that Hillary: "said that 'it was not an isolated situation' for women to be turned away by military recruiters. And she lauded efforts to bring women into more aspects of military service." Translation: Hillary thinks a woman's place is on the front lines.

Despite the fact that she was zealously anti-war as a college student, Hillary continues to bemoan the fact that the Marines shunned her. You begin to suspect that her story is a political ploy to make female voters think she is pro-woman.

Your Daughter's Draft Threat

There is a very real chance that your daughter or granddaughter would face an equal chance of being drafted as your son and grandson if Hillary becomes president. Besides repeatedly mentioning her Marine rejection story, Clinton persists in praising President Obama—whose administration is pushing hard to put more women on the front lines.

"I'd give him an 'A,'" Hillary has said of Obama's job performance. She recently praised the president as a global "leader" on foreign policy who has her "support" to keep American forces in Afghanistan for what now looks like perpetuity.

Obama's Defense Secretary Ashton Carter is predicted to make a decision in January that would force the Marines to allow women in all combat roles. Far from empowering women, this move is scientifically proven to hurt women.

Ashton Carter, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama share one thing in common: they never served in the military. This may be why they dismiss the Marine Corps' 9-month study on the impact of expanding the role of women in combat. The study's results are eye-opening. In nearly three quarters of events (69%), all-male squads outperformed mixed gender squads. Negotiating obstacles, casualty evacuations and long hikes under load were exponentially more difficult for women.

I interviewed a recently-retired Navy SEAL who told me that he would be fine with women joining the SEALs on one key condition: that they be able to pass the exact same tests as the men. Realistically, there is no way to get droves of women to become Rangers, Marines or the SEALS unless we lower our standards.

Women have many wonderful abilities that men lack, including the ability to give birth. But females in the military have around a third less muscle mass and at least ten percent more body fat than the males, according to recent Army data. Men are significantly faster and stronger than women, shows military study after study.

40 percent more women than men who serve in the military today are hospitalized (even accounting for pregnancy). Expect this percentage to skyrocket if more women assume Marine combat roles.

Much ado was made when three women managed to pass Ranger School on their third try. Countless more men—including my own cousin—passed Ranger School without first failing to pass twice. No one in the national media noticed.

We wouldn't ask golf star Jordan Spieth to miss a few putts so as to "equalize" the playing field in a hypothetical co-ed Masters Tournament. Why support poor sportsmanship when the stakes are far higher than a green jacket?

We're at war with ISIS, folks. Thugs who enjoy murdering innocent people via explosive necklace; beheading and suicide bombing. It is unethical to push women into the toughest Marine combat roles knowing they have a 69% greater chance of failure than men. Because, in war, mission failure often means death.

Young Women Say: I Don't Want To Fight

Harvard just released its 2015 poll of Millennial views on foreign policy and the results show that 85% of young people, men and women both, have no interest in enlisting. 62% of Millennials said they would "definitely not" and 23% said they would "probably not" join the military to combat ISIS.

Hillary has no fear of being drafted herself. Nor need she worry about her 35-year-old pregnant daughter Chelsea being drafted if women are forced to register with the Selective Service. And with a draft-dodging expert like Slick Willie for a grandfather, Hillary knows she need not worry about her granddaughter Charlotte.

Your daughters and granddaughters are at risk of being drafted in a war against ISIS that only 4% of young people tell Harvard researchers they would "definitely" consider fighting.

It would be demeaning to both men and women; a waste of taxpayer dollars; and a national security risk to give women shortcuts to the front lines in the name of "gender equality." Or, in the words of the Marine Corps study: "a prescription for failure."

Share this column, educate Millennials about the Clintons' views on foreign policy, and urge Defense Secretary Carter to side with the Marines and keep harsh combat roles closed to women. Don't let Hillary have the opportunity to draft your daughter as she moves up the political ladder.

80 posted on 12/28/2015 10:01:23 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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