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To: Bob434
Let’s assume that at 1:00 pm the atmosphere is say, for the sake of illustration only, 100 degrees. This local area of atmosphere has just 0.04% CO2 in it- It captures upward IR photons, releases them, the energy results in heat of say, for the sake of illustration, 102 degrees- This 0.04% molecules of warmer heat collides with the mass of 99.96% of the area’s 100 degree molecules- instantly the 0.04% warmer molecules get cooled down to the 100 degrees

Decent description, but two problems with the scenario: 1) the CO2 molecules get way warmer than 102F and 2) the 0.04% also warm the other molecules by a bit as they are cooled (has to go both ways).

85 posted on 12/28/2015 5:01:36 PM PST by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: palmer

[[1) the CO2 molecules get way warmer than 102F]]

What temperature is the released radiated energy?


87 posted on 12/28/2015 10:08:45 PM PST by Bob434
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To: palmer

and just onem ore thought before my brain goes to shutdown-

the amount of Ir absorbed is still just 0.04% of the atmosphere- these get absorbed, radiated out in all directions- some upwards where they lose their energy, some sideways where they are reabsorbed and ‘perhaps’ lose some energy, and some downwards towards earth where the energy is met with lower temps in overwhelming numbers (IE there is vastly more cooler molecules than the fraction of the 0.04% radiated molecules that are warmer- These warmer molecules will quickly reach equilibrium with the earth’s temps being that the warmer molecule numbers are vastly outnumbered by the cooler earth surface molecules

The warmed molecules that remain in atmosphere (after being radiated sideways) will have a very slight effect on surrounding O2 molecules, but the warmer radiated molecules will also quickly reach equilibrium with atmospheric molecules/temps because once again the warmer molecules are vastly outnumbered by O2 molecules-

Again it comes down to sheer numbers- Sheer percentages- only a tiny fraction of the molecules captured by the scant CO2 (0.04% fo the atmosphere) will actually even remain in atmosphere- so while just 0.04% of the atmosphere is an insignificant amount, what remains I nthe atmosphere (the energy captured and released by the 0.04% cO2 molecules) is an even more insignificant percentage since only a fraction of that heat/energy actually remains in atmosphere

Again- by way of analogy, all we’re doing it pouring a 5 gallon bucket of slightly warmer water into an Olympic sized pool and claiming it will ‘cause catastrophic calamities if we don’t stop pouring a five gallon bucket in once a year’


88 posted on 12/28/2015 10:23:03 PM PST by Bob434
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