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To: TXDuke

“Your point???

In reference to your assertion that Cruz gets most of his contributions from the average Joe, my point was that that is not the case.

“Can you prove that as a close Clinton friend that Trump isn’t in this race simply as a spoiler to help Hillary?”

And this thing about Trump being a spoiler to help Hillary, supposedly from a man who has the biggest, most insufferable ego in world history, and has the most powerful office in the world within his grasp, and can’t wait to hand it off to Hillary, is about the dumbest thing imaginable. It takes a real flake to swallow that one. And you should know, being the obvious logical tactician that are, that you can’t prove a negative.

Can I prove? You certainly like to use that word a lot, especially for someone like you who likes to make statements about Trump that you pull out of thin air.

“Everything in Cruz’s past and his actions have proven him to be a real conservative and true to his word.”

Such as voting for the Obama agenda, i.e. TPA and the Corker bill, and publicly stating that he would fight gay marriage and then telling donors that gay marriage is not his top priority?

Contradiction: Cruz ssid that the gay marriage ruling was unconstitutional, then he says will not fight gay marriage but he will fight for the Constitution.

As far as I know, Trump has never said he would fight gay marriage, but Cruz did, and according to all you Cruz supporters, Cruz is a divine incarnation of the Constitution and the Ten Commandments and is spotless and never contradicts himself.


75 posted on 12/26/2015 12:22:10 PM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

“In reference to your assertion that Cruz gets most of his contributions from the average Joe, my point was that that is not the case.”

Again, you only showed donations for one month and try to use that as evidence to support most of his donations are big donors. First of all, $2700 is not a big donor. Second of all, Cruz has accumulated over $30-$50 million, mostly from small donors such as myself. Either, you are just lying about Cruz to bash him or you don’t know all of the facts and should remain quiet because you are obviously wrong.

“And this thing about Trump being a spoiler to help Hillary, supposedly from a man who has the biggest, most insufferable ego in world history, and has the most powerful office in the world within his grasp, and can’t wait to hand it off to Hillary, is about the dumbest thing imaginable. It takes a real flake to swallow that one. And you should know, being the obvious logical tactician that are, that you can’t prove a negative. Can I prove? You certainly like to use that word a lot, especially for someone like you who likes to make statements about Trump that you pull out of thin air.”

Well you seem to pull out of thin air many false accusations against Cruz, even claiming that Cruz is bought. So fair is fair, I can make the same assumptions that Trump is bought. At least Cruz is getting donations from conservatives. Cruz has a trustworthy track record. Trump does not. Only a faux conservative, libertarian (aka liberal lite), or raging liberal would be so blind as to follow Trump after Trump’s history.

Trump has been a democrat supporter for 30 years. He is on record supporting illegals, gay marriage, abortion, and gun control. Trump is also a long-time Clinton friend and supporter. These are all absolute, provable facts.

“Such as voting for the Obama agenda, i.e. TPA and the Corker bill, and publicly stating that he would fight gay marriage and then telling donors that gay marriage is not his top priority?”

Again, you mislead and distort the facts because everyone knows that Cruz did not support either, but only supported poison pills for the legislation in order to kill the bills. You do realize that Trump originally supported TARP too, right?

“Contradiction: Cruz ssid that the gay marriage ruling was unconstitutional, then he says will not fight gay marriage but he will fight for the Constitution.”

Did you actually read Cruz’s statements or are you just a lying fool?? Cruz said gay marriage was not the top priority and that defending the Constitution and State rights were priorities. He also stated that neither should be determined the courts. Both of Cruz’s stated priorities include fighting against gay marriage since that is a State rights’ and Constitution issue so none of Cruz’s statements were contradictory or inconsistent.

“As far as I know, Trump has never said he would fight gay marriage, but Cruz did, and according to all you Cruz supporters, Cruz is a divine incarnation of the Constitution and the Ten Commandments and is spotless and never contradicts himself.”

This statement is funny coming from a Trump supporter. Everything Trump does and says now is a complete contradiction of the last 30 years. Trump has always and still supports liberal policies (aka gay marriage, gun control, and abortion). Trump has only taken a conservative stance on immigration. That is his only policy platform. Trump has no other platform to run on at all. Unfortunately, Trump only took this conservative immigration stance less than 2 years ago. Prior to that, Trump is on record condemning Romney for being too harsh on illegals. Trump is the epitome of hypocrisy and contradictions.

Only a flake or a fool would take Trump at face value, given his liberal past. Try researching and reading a little more, but if you continue to make false accusations against Cruz then I will continue to point out how those same accusations can apply to Trump tenfold. That is why Trump will lose the general if he makes it that far because he will never appeal to true conservatives.


76 posted on 12/26/2015 4:02:03 PM PST by TXDuke
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To: odawg

BTW...I’ve yet to see a Cruz supporter claim Cruz is perfect, but he does fight for and protect the Constitution and State’s rights. He is much more conservative than Trump hands down.

Trump has never done anything conservative or anything to defend and protect any conservative values, including the Constitution or State’s rights so it doesn’t make any sense that any conservatives would support Trump.


78 posted on 12/26/2015 4:13:26 PM PST by TXDuke
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