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Lee Circle no more: New Orleans to remove 4 Confederate statues
Times Picayune ^ | December 17, 2015 | Richard Rainey

Posted on 12/17/2015 1:01:38 PM PST by yoe

Edited on 12/17/2015 1:26:43 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: yoe

Just cultural talibanis purging the south of its history. Yankees will be next.


81 posted on 12/18/2015 11:15:26 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: NFHale

Erasing the flaws of your ancestors will guarantee you repeat them.


82 posted on 12/18/2015 11:20:54 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Habeas corpus was suspended and the Maryland legislature placed under house arrest in Fort McHenry before they could vote on secession after Maryland was occupied by Northern State Militias. Do some research on the Baltimore riots that ensued with that invasion. Maryland wasn't a union state, it was an occupied Southern State.
83 posted on 12/18/2015 11:25:44 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Do some research on the Baltimore riots that ensued with that invasion.

I suggest you do the same. The Maryland legislature was not placed under house arrest in September 1861. Only 11 were detained, and since they were planning on trying the take Maryland into the rebellion then going on what exactly did you expect to happen? Maryland was not an "occupied Southern state" since the legislature had voted not to secede on April 29, 1861.

84 posted on 12/19/2015 4:22:43 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: NFHale

Khent: “At least I’m not a cartoon character, Uncle Jimbo.”


85 posted on 12/19/2015 7:33:03 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: DoodleDawg
On April 17, 1861, Virginia seceded. Maryland had waited to vote, to avoid being surrounded by union states--a poor strategic position.

April 19, 1861, the soldiers of the 6th Massachusetts Volunteers, moving through Baltimore on the way to Washington, were attacked by a pro-Southern mob (not 'rabble,' but including businessmen and 'respectable people'.

Rather than consider this an anomaly, consider the lines from the State Song:

"Avenge the patriotic gore/That flecked the streets of Baltimore."

Maryland had already been invaded.

"Meanwhile, on April 27 (1861) Lincoln authorized the suspension of habeas corpus. This meant that the military authorities could make summary arrests of persons thought to aiding the Confederacy or attempting to overthrow the government. Such persons could be detained indefinitely without judicial hearing and without indictment, and the arresting officer was not obliged to release them when a judge issued a writ of habeas corpus."

By the vote of April 29, Maryland had a gun to its head.

It was occupied by Union troops and Northern State Militias, Habeas Corpus had been suspended, and any who voted to seceede could be "detained" indefinitely without charges or trial or bond.

86 posted on 12/19/2015 9:55:37 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
It was occupied by Union troops and Northern State Militias, Habeas Corpus had been suspended, and any who voted to seceede could be "detained" indefinitely without charges or trial or bond.

I truly wonder if you guys read any history at all? Maryland was not occupied, not in 1861 and not ever. Habeas corpus had been suspended, but only along the military railroad lines and not throughout the state. The Maryland legislature voted down secession by a 53 to 13 vote on April 29, and while they did not declare support for the Union cause they also did not support the rebel one. And amazingly enough none of those voting for secession was "detained", temporarily or otherwise.

87 posted on 12/19/2015 10:30:27 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

The following is a list of the members of the Legislature and others arrested at Frederick for disloyalty. They were sent to Annapolis, via the Relay House, and will probably proceed to Fortress Monroe by the first steamer, unless detained by order of Gen. DIX, waiting further orders from the Government:

RICHARD C. MCKUBIN, of Annapolis.

S.P. CARMACK, Senate Committee Clerk.

E.A. HANSON.

THOS. E. SCHLEIGH, Doorkeeper of the House.

CLARKE J. DURANT, of Leonardtown, St. Mary’s County, merchant, member of the House.

J. LAWRENCE JONES, of Talbot County, mechanic, member of the House.

MILTON G. KIDD, Chief Clerk of the House.

F.H. MOORE, Assistant Clerk of the House.

C.G. KILBOURNE, Speaker of the House.

JOHN M. BREWER, Reading Clerk of the Senate.

E. SALMON, of Frederick County, farmer, member of the House.

JOSIAH H. GORRON, of Alleghany County, sawyer member of the House.

THOMAS J. CLAGGETT, of Frederick County, farmer, member of the House.

OSCAR MILES, of St. Marys, planter, Senator.

ANDREW KESSLER, Jr., of Frederick County, farmer, member of the House.

Also, Messrs. ELKINS, RILEY and JOHN HAGAN, hotel-keepers, near Frederick City.

The following is a list of persons arrested who refused to take the oath of allegiance and are now under guard at Frederick: Thomas Hooper, Wm. Baylis, F.W. Desley, F. Davis and R. Fowler.”

Source: New York Times, 1861 http://www.nytimes.com/1861/09/19/n...sted-members-of-the-maryland-legislature.html


88 posted on 12/19/2015 10:47:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
The following is a list of the members of the Legislature and others arrested at Frederick for disloyalty.

That was in September 1861. At that time the Confederate rebellion had been going on for four months and, and those 11 legislators you mentioned wanted to join it and war against the United States. Given that just what how did you expect the government to react?

89 posted on 12/19/2015 11:19:42 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: yoe

Do we get to ban Muslims for killing 14 Citizens; the same way they’re banning the Confederacy for some shooter in S.C.??

And, what exactly does a shooting in S.C. have to do w/ anything in LA? I know logic doesn’t run in great circles with the Socialists but....


90 posted on 12/19/2015 12:18:54 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: GOPsterinMA

No, Khent, you’re just the little inbred kid on the rocking chair on a porch, speed-picking on a guitar.

Bout sums it up...


91 posted on 12/19/2015 5:31:08 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Well, the only folks I see that practice slavery still to this day are the ones going around yelling allah snackbar and blowing themselves and innocent folks up.


92 posted on 12/19/2015 5:32:34 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
There are tens of millions of people who work in thrall to their masters, who submit to their orders to avoid being forcefully removed from their homes.

We call them "taxpayers".

93 posted on 12/19/2015 8:39:44 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: NFHale

Khent: “No Jimbo, you’re not only a cartoon character, you also have “other issues”...”

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110420203247AA6bpET

“Consider this to be August, 1945 and your last name is Nagasaki.”


94 posted on 12/20/2015 6:34:53 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I prefer Hiroshima...


95 posted on 12/21/2015 4:40:04 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


96 posted on 12/21/2015 4:56:54 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Thank you for that correction. You are indeed quite correct. I had forgotten about those states constitutional conventions which abolished slavery.


97 posted on 12/21/2015 4:41:17 PM PST by DMZFrank
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