Posted on 12/14/2015 5:34:08 PM PST by true believer forever
You called me a flat out liar. Trump actually did have a meeting with illegal alien activists in 2013 and made the statement to them at the end “You’ve convinced me”.
I have found the original article here:
http://nbclatino.com/2013/08/22/donald-trump-tells-immigrant-advocates-youve-convinced-me/
[ Ted Cruz IS the conservative we’ve been waiting for! Put your emotions aside for a moment and use your God-given common sense! ]
Yup, Cruz certainly is, and Trump is a Populist that has been a long time coming too.
I am just glad for the moment that we seem to have 2 top contenders that are not in in the Bush/Dole/Romney/McCain cartel.
I would put my intellect, capacity for critical thought, and downright sensibleness against any Cruzbot, anytime, any day, any way. You seem to have a nice black and white world there, you're either for Cruz or you're involved in a cult of personality. Okey, dokey, just so I understand you and your little world.
So, Trump is a man of questionable character?
He voted against it.
Levin has a TERRIBLE record of being duped by fake conservatives who end up betraying us. Orrin Hatch, Marco Rubio, and now perhaps Cruz. Levin is a huge immigration hawk. So how can he stomach Cruz’s horrible record on the issue?
The senate would be more healthy if every senator was MORE like Ted Cruz.
The senate is NOT supposed to be the Majority Leader Appreciation society you know!
I cannot believe the points in your post are even debatable here on FreeRepublic.
Perhaps it is just a loud minority.
Judging from your name, I think you can count and would be a good exercise for you to count the number of states and federal offices that were won in 2014.
Your knock on Cruz is that his efforts, for example, on Obama Care did not result in repeal therefore he accomplished nothing. That is your test. By that test Trump has done nothing, he did not enter the arena, he did not run for office, he did not publicly support Ted Cruz in his efforts. Having left Cruz unsupported, he now leaves his supporters unrebuked as they attack Ted Cruz for not succeeding.
If it were not alleging guilt by association, I would accuse Trump of hypocrisy; or perhaps there is a legitimate criticism to be made for Trump's failure to repudiate these attacks on Ted Cruz while his adherence claim credit for him for what Cruz is done.
I have refrained from commenting on your APA attacks which require a whole series of lengthy responses. I will simply say that Ted Cruz's position at the time he voted for APA was a perfectly valid conservative position endorsed by the Heritage Foundation, consistent with the economics preached by conservatives like Milton Friedman, and absolutely necessary if any treaty or agreement were to be negotiated. His position was quite open and when circumstances changed, Cruz openly changed his vote.
{I cannot believe the points in your post are even debatable here on FreeRepublic. Perhaps it is just a loud minority.}
“letâs not forget that GWB was an open borders guy and that Little Teddy Cruz was his adviser on immigration.”
Cruz never advised GWB on immigration or much else for that matter. He worked on his campaign for a only short time, most of which was spent serving on the legal team for the Florida ballot battle after election day. After they won that fight, Cruz was not hired into the Bush White House and did no other work for the administration.
I understand you’re for Trump, your guy can do no wrong and everybody else is a RINO sellout, but let’s at least get our facts straight.
Total B.S. Those same illegal protested in front of Trump Tower in August. Trump wrote a book in 2010 espousing nearly the EXACT tough immigration proposals he advocates now, with the addition of strict H1-B restrictions.
Meanwhile just 3 years ago Cruz was endorsing an INCREASE in legal immigration from the insane 1 million/year Ted Kennedy-selected Third Worlders. He also supported legal status for 40 millions illegals, and a staggering 500% increase in H1-B visas to screw American workers.
His uber-establishment wife Heidi co-authored a Council on Foreign Relations plan for a "North American Union", with the Amero replacing the dollar as our new currency. We've all heard about this. But Heidi Cruz WROTE IT!
2011 was before the gang of eight bill and the outing of Rubio. Let’s take a stroll to 2 years later, 2013, when Donald Trump held a meeting with a group of illegal aliens seeking amnesty. At the end of the meeting, Trump exclaimed “You’ve convinced me!”
A real conservative, that Trump.
If I made an incriminating statement like you just did, I’d feel compelled to supply a link - integrity being what it is... and to hear Levin talk tonight he obviously deemed himself the oracle of one ... he was wrong about Rubio, he might be wrong about Cruz, after all, lots of people think Trump’s the real deal.
“You know, the truth is I have a lot of illegals working for me in Miami,” he told them, using the term for undocumented immigrants those in the meeting found offensive. “You know in Miami, my golf course is tended by all these Hispanics â if it wasn’t for them my lawn wouldn’t be the lawn it is; it’s the best lawn,” Pacheco recalled Trump saying.
Trump said he knew the work of undocumented people is what makes his golf courses and hotels great.
“At the end of the day, what we’re looking at is a value proposition for America,” Tijerino said to Trump at the end of the meeting, referring to immigration legislation.
“You’ve convinced me,” Trump said to the delight of the activists in the room.
Check Trump's record on the the issue. Specifically check Trump's July 24th 2015 amnesty comment.
It wasn't until July 30th that he mentioned deportation for the non criminals and even then he had to add that he would expedite the good ones back.
Yes, and I think there are a few others, but i'm not absolutely certain so won't mention them here.
SOME FYI:
Live streaming of Donald J. Trump rally in Las Vegas, Monday 14th 2015 10:30 pm EDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R--aoYkjT6w
http://rsbn.tv/watch-live-donald-trump-holds-rally-in-las-vegas-nv/
Forgot to ping you!
Levin is an unhinged kook. He had to take three days off when his damned dog died. I think what we are seeing is the second tier “establishment” getting blown to hell by Trump who is not doing lock step with these “talk show” nazis. I see this as a huge positive move for Trump to separate himself from the fringe right. He is going with the people and our Nation— not their narrative. He is drawing millions of new voters to what was the Gope and taking it over. Tomorrow night he will read Cruz very carefully . If he detects any hostility— he will blow Cruz gone with “ Where were you born?” It will go off like a bomb and destroy Cruz. Cruz better keep his harvard mouth shut.
Trump isn’t Moses. He’s just another shapeshifting liberal.
But you go ahead and fawn till you drop.
Cruz explained to a donor in a private conversation why he thinks he’s going to win. Then he expressed his admiration for Trump in public. That’s duplicitous to you?
The credit goes to Sundance at ConservativeTreehouse.com where he is analyzing this race more accurately than anyone I know of.
But you go ahead and fawn till you drop.
I don't fawn and I don't drop. Cruz has a bit of a history of shapeshifting himself. You're not a very happy person, are you? Let's agree to disagree, I don't like bummers.
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