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To: WTFOVR
The entire system of ethanol production is a losing game that requires more energy to produce than what it delivers in return - a net loss.

True.

Ethanol requires more fuel to run the same distance as does straight gasoline

True.

so you generate more pollution, not less

Hmmmm...maybe?

ethanol totally destroys small 2-stroke engines

Really! You have proof of that?

ethanol is neither kind to 4-stroke engines or their fuel systems.

Not true, only if you leave fuel in a vented cap system where it can draw water from the air. You put a plastic bag over the opening and screw on the cap. Applicable to small power equipment engines.

Your car has a sealed fuel system, no similar issue exists.

230 posted on 12/12/2015 10:05:32 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Not true, only if you leave fuel in a vented cap system where it can draw water from the air

No need for that...ethanol is 5% water.

Yes it does destroy small engine tools like chain saws, weed eaters, lawnmowers, and generators.

The alcohol damages the fuel system components, rots out gas tanks and jams the carbs with debris.

May devices of this kind only last two seasons..

On automobiles, they have been trying to correct the issues for more than 20 years. The most common issue is the in-tank fuel pumps...the alcohol degrades the once fluid tight connectors for the pump and instrumentation power, this causes the connectors to go prematurely bad causing a replacement and much aggravation as they just fail suddenly.

Yeah I have proof.... I have 7 chainsaws and three weed eaters in buckets. I have 3 replaced fuel pumps in 125K miles. 2 pumps on another car with 70K miles...2 screwed up generators as well... And that's just me!

233 posted on 12/12/2015 10:19:32 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Run ethanol in your lawn mower, or any other two-stroke engine, and you’ll be replacing the equipment after one season. Proof? Every person around here - myself included - who have had to learn the lesson the hard way.

If you must burn 5% more fuel to go the same distance, because 10% ethanol has less BTUs per gallon than straight gasoline, then you are putting more contaminants into the air. It’s not rocket science.

Ethanol is highly corrosive to aluminum, it degrades rubber seals and vacuum lines, and opens up the sand pours of cast block engines - thus causing increased oil consumption ... those are not suppositions, but proven facts. Bio-diesel may be a worthwhile endeavor, but ethanol is the most piss poor fuel additive ever created. It’s a total farce, and an absolute waste of limited resources.


234 posted on 12/12/2015 10:22:27 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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