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Trump attacks Ted Cruz for not supporting ethanol subsidies
The American Thinker ^ | December 12, 2015 | Ed Straker

Posted on 12/11/2015 11:57:00 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: ROCKLOBSTER
"I don't think five ears of sweet-corn for a dollar is outrageous....do you?"

Not now, but ...

I can remember, 50 years ago, growing up in Michigan where we would buy sweet corn from the farmer up the road for 30 ears for a dollar; 40 for a dollar if we picked it ourselves. During the autumn, my parents fed five growing boys sometimes three times a week on nothing but sweet corn for dinner. And my mother would can enough sweet corn to keep us going for the whole next year.

241 posted on 12/12/2015 10:50:09 PM PST by BlueLancer (Once is happenstance. Twice is circumstance. Three times is enemy action.)
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To: Cold Heat
Yes it does destroy small engine tools like chain saws, weed eaters, lawnmowers, and generators. The alcohol damages the fuel system components, rots out gas tanks and jams the carbs with debris. May devices of this kind only last two seasons..

That's because you leave fuel in the tank with a vented cap. It pulls water out of the air and that causes your problems.

I have 7 chainsaws and three weed eaters in buckets.

On that point, you might be better off running hardware-store 2-stroke fuel, but the huge snowmobile industry up here has not had serious problems with the fuel according to the Maine Snowmobile Association.

I have 3 replaced fuel pumps in 125K miles. 2 pumps on another car with 70K miles...2 screwed up generators as well... And that's just me!

It probably is you. The main thing that kills in-tank pumps is running them too low on fuel as they use the fuel as a coolant and lubricant. The generators should be run dry of fuel or have a piece of plastic put under the cap when not in use.

If you take the carbs apart, clean them and put them back together, they should be just fine.

242 posted on 12/12/2015 10:50:40 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: WTFOVR
Run ethanol in your lawn mower, or any other two-stroke engine, and you'll be replacing the equipment after one season. Proof? Every person around here - myself included - who have had to learn the lesson the hard way.

You need to take better care of your stuff!

All of my gear is way over 20 years old. I have never had to replace as much as a piston, valve or even head gasket. Once in a while I had to dump out the carburetor bowl, until I learned to run them out of fuel. Now...no problem. I have snow blowers, lawn mowers and tractors that old.

The main things I have to replace are belts and bushings in the drive mechanisms. All of them have been converted to electronic ignition.

I change my oil whenever it looks dirty.

Ethanol is highly corrosive to aluminum

You want to explain that, like in a chemistry context. Acid is corrosive, water might be. Tell us why alcohol is so damn corrosive.

it degrades rubber seals and vacuum lines

They haven't used rubber in decades.

and opens up the sand pours of cast block engines - thus causing increased oil consumption ... those are not suppositions, but proven facts.

I'd like to believe you but.....

People up here don't have a lot of money, they run their cars till they fall apart from rust (road salt) When the engines fail, it's generally from lack of maintenance (oil changes)....not the issues you allege. Usually they brag of 2 to 300 thousand miles...REGARDLESS OF BRAND NAME.

243 posted on 12/12/2015 11:04:26 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: BlueLancer
50 years ago

50 years ago!

I'm talking about now...in the grocery store. I'm sure people around here would still let me pick produce damn cheap too...apples for example.

50 years ago, gas was 29 cents. A loaf of bread 50 cents.

244 posted on 12/12/2015 11:08:30 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Cold Heat

As well, the president can apply pressure on the Congress that a,single Senator cannot apply. The president speaks with a single voice than can readily be heard above the din of the daily news.

Also,especially during a political campaign, the presidential nominee becomes the face,of the party, and whether they like him or not, the members of Congress of the nominees’s party will need to rally around him during the campaign and give some consideration to his legislative agenda if he wins office. This is all to save their political buts.


245 posted on 12/12/2015 11:34:01 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I can’t eat sweet corn anymore. 5 ears for a buck??!! Now I’m sort of glad that’s on the no no list. 15 years ago, I got 13 ears for a buck. Ten years ago, I got 12 ears to a buck. I thought half a dozen to a buck was exorbitant.


246 posted on 12/12/2015 11:46:37 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: WTFOVR
He could always state that ethanol must stand or fall on merits w/o subsidies.

If you mean Cruz, he's already done that, in essence. From the lefty DesMoines Register, he makes it fairly clear, and in other places as well.

Cruz has long been opposed to government subsidies for renewable energy industries. All of 'em. Across the board. It's why he won't budge on ethanol. Cruz has the same political compass that I do.

Trump is a hell of a lot more iffy, it looks to me when I go online and search out where he stands on the issue.

247 posted on 12/13/2015 12:03:05 AM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: conservativejoy

Well there, I knew I was supporting him for a reason.......!!!!!


248 posted on 12/13/2015 4:25:23 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

“One ha to be both brave and a principled conservative to admit to Iowa voters that you do not support ethanol subsidies.”

No surprise here - Trump is neither of those things.


249 posted on 12/13/2015 6:12:43 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Finny
Wrong wording?

Maybe should have said two top candidates

That would have fit better....

250 posted on 12/13/2015 6:15:33 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: conservativejoy

[Cruz and Paul have had a sound plan for three years and] are framing their position as one of potential terrorist, rather than making it about religion. /paraphrase.

Right and God bless them for it. Cruz also wants to help Syrian Christian refugees [and bless him for that too!]

But this is what makes Trump even more impressive: he addresses the problem head-on, such as the muslims already in the US who are pro-terrorism.

To shock people with common sense is compelling evidence of leadership and vision.


251 posted on 12/13/2015 6:31:33 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: topfile; Cincinatus' Wife

Trump Gets 25x more media mentions than GOP field — combined!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/12/11/edge-trump-gets-25-times-more-media-mentions-than-gop-field-combined.html

And he’s doing it by angering the media. That’s profound and downright revolutionary.


252 posted on 12/13/2015 6:34:20 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: editor-surveyor

Trump’s Muslim moratorium backed by conservative icon (Phyllis Schlafly)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371982/posts

[While I hate ethanol subsidies and the tyrannical mandates that go with it, I have to forgive Trump. This is too revolutionary to pass up.]


253 posted on 12/13/2015 6:37:51 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: tillacum

Trump’s Name Restored At Dubai Golf Complex

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3372016/posts

[Awsome, isnt it? Here is a guy who is supposed to be outraging muslims most of all, and muslim Dubai LOVES the man!]


254 posted on 12/13/2015 6:59:40 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: sitetest
Ten years ago, I got 12 ears to a buck.

What supermarket?

255 posted on 12/13/2015 7:01:55 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: VideoDoctor

Steve Deace said only the RINO voters who would never vote for Cruz or Trump care about ethanol subsidies.

The analogy to coal is totally bogus. Obama is using regulations to STOP the free mining of coal. That’s opposed to using regulations and taxpayer money to prop up ethanol which is not cost-effective on its own. Probably dramatically so now that gas is so cheap.

The government needs to GET OUT of subsidizing all this crap. If you can’t stand up for basic free market principles, you’re not a conservative. If you believe the government should use taxpayer money to “give people jobs,” you’re a liberal.


256 posted on 12/13/2015 7:04:16 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: VideoDoctor

Trump’s best strategy might be to say that he likes Cruz and thinks he would make a good apprentice for him, but that Cruz is not ready to lead a government after not even finishing one Senate term. While Trump has led a large organization with lots of employees. Trump just doesn’t have a chance going after Cruz on the issues. He should play up the executive experience part of his resume against Cruz.


257 posted on 12/13/2015 7:06:41 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The point is they’re using their land to grow corn for fuel instead of corn for food.


258 posted on 12/13/2015 7:07:59 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Mostly at the roadside stand on a local main drag, and the corn I would buy at the stand in early afternoon was picked fresh that morning. Same with the tomatoes. And at the right time of year, the watermelons. I can still eat watermelon, thank God. But this year, my wife said, corn was about 5 for a buck. Sad.


259 posted on 12/13/2015 7:11:18 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: JediJones
The point is they’re using their land to grow corn for fuel instead of corn for food.

The point is; you never ate cattle feed.

Corn prices are about the same as in 2008 and dropping...about half of what they were in 2013.

260 posted on 12/13/2015 7:37:21 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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