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To: Dead Corpse
Debra has a great point with this.

Irresponsible owners leave loaded weapons where children can find them.

Should irresponsible gun owners, who leave their loaded weapons around were children can find them, allowed to have guns? I don't think so.

9 posted on 12/08/2015 10:54:46 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
When I was a child, my parents left a loaded gun where I could find it, in a nice wooden rack right over my bed. I also knew which drawer had my Dad's S&W model 10.

They must not have loved me very much, lol.

14 posted on 12/08/2015 11:03:24 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Kaslin
Should irresponsible gun owners, who leave their loaded weapons around were children can find them, allowed to have guns? I don't think so.

Hoo Boy!

That's some dangerous ground, right there.

Ever tell a kid to leave something alone? Some will, some are going to take a little 'educating'.

If a child wants to locate something, they will, sooner or later.

Can a determined child find my guns (well some of them)? Sure. A determined child can find a penny in a grain bin. The trick is to dampen that determination by teaching kids what not to do.

My father had a closet in which resided all long guns. It was open, the ammo was on the shelf. We had been told that if we wanted to go shooting, we were to ask. (rural setting). If, however, we ever took a firearm without his express authorization and approval (and supervision), we not only would not be allowed to shoot for a year, but we wouldn't (when we were older) get to go hunting that year, either.

We didn't mess with the guns, we didn't let our friends mess with the guns. Period.

We knew where the handguns were, too, and that they were loaded, but we did not mess with them at all.

Now, there are those who might debate this, but I don't see my father as irresponsible. He just raised responsible kids.

YMMV, one size does not fit all.

16 posted on 12/08/2015 11:08:20 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Kaslin

“Should irresponsible gun owners, who leave their loaded weapons around were children can find them, allowed to have guns?”

Was my Dad irresponsible? I always knew where his guns were, and knew better than to bother them. I also learned from him how to safely use and correctly care for the guns.

Was I irresponsible? My daughter always knew where my guns were, for a long time the long arms were on a rack in the dining room. I now keep them all locked up, but not because of her, but in case someone breaks in while I am not home. My teen daughter going to the range with me has been a great bonding experience.

Neither I nor my daughter were kept in the dark about guns. We learned at an early age to respect them.


19 posted on 12/08/2015 11:23:35 AM PST by fredhead (Join the Navy and see the world.....77% of which is covered in water.)
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To: Kaslin

Interesting point there. Not sure how one would preemptively identify “irresponsible gun owners”.

Children who are brought up around and taught to respect weapons, taught proper gun safety and educated in the use of firearms are MUCH less likely to pick up and “play” with weapons than children who are not.

Some time ago, I read about a study done in Virginia in which inert (non-firing) guns were left in classrooms; closed-circuit cameras monitored childrens’ reactions to the guns. What the study found was that children who had been taught gun safety and proper handling left the room and reported the presence of the gun in the classroom, whereas children who had not immediately picked them up and started playing with them, including aiming them at their classmates and “shooting them”.


28 posted on 12/08/2015 12:34:18 PM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Kaslin

You cannot childproof a gun. My Dad had trigger locks. I learned to pick them. What kept me from doing naughty things with them? I was taught to respect them as dangerous tools.

You cannot childproof the world, but you CAN world-proof your children.

Start teaching responsible gun handling in Grade school. Right along with knives and fire.


33 posted on 12/08/2015 12:55:21 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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