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Breaking: Donald Trump calls for a complete shutdown of muslims entering the country.
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Posted on 12/07/2015 1:43:31 PM PST by RoosterRedux

No details. Just heard this flipping through news channels


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldthehammer; elections; gotrump; immigration; infiltrators; invasion; islam; jihad; kickasstakenames; moratorium; muslims; terror; trojanhorse; trump; trumpconstitution; trumpmuslims; trumpwasright
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To: ctdonath2; brothers4thID
Careful how you word/work it. “Followers of religion X can’t come here” is functionally equivalent to “arms of type X can’t be imported”, and both infringe on enumerated rights.

Islam is a political movement in the guise of "religion". They openly state their intention to subvert the laws of America to bend to their perverted views That is sedition. It is anathema. There is no "enumerated right" to overthrow America.

Alas I haven't yet sufficiently thought of what they are, which will make me a target on FR.

You do a pretty good job of shooting yourself in the foot!


161 posted on 12/07/2015 2:50:29 PM PST by WVKayaker (On Scale of 1 to 5 Palins, How Likely Is Media Assault on Each GOP Candidate?)
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To: Jane Long

Love the picture. The only problem is that President Trump would have piles of paperwork on his desk.


162 posted on 12/07/2015 2:51:05 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Jane Long

163 posted on 12/07/2015 2:51:22 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Cruz is great.

Right now, “a guaranteed conservative” is no one who must depend on donors.

Not now.

Biggest reason Trump is in.

Cruz would much rather have 9 bil of his own, I am sure, and the personality, charisma and the record Trump has that allows him to campaign without spending a dime, just news flashes.

But that’s not the way it’s going now.

Nothing against him or those who would prefer to not have to serve the powers that be, its the way it is.


164 posted on 12/07/2015 2:51:33 PM PST by stanne
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To: RoosterRedux

If Trump maintains his stance on this, he will overcome the damage done by his incoherent squishiness on abortion. There is NOTHING the American People care about more than stopping the invasion of Muslims, Mexicans, etc.


165 posted on 12/07/2015 2:51:54 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: RoosterRedux

Sounds reasonable.


166 posted on 12/07/2015 2:52:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: TigersEye

Obviously we can’t enforce inalienable rights for those outside our borders, but methinks those within our borders should enjoy those rights. How else can we respect “inalienable rights endowed by our Creator”?


167 posted on 12/07/2015 2:53:04 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; Parley Baer
Congress shall make NO LAW establishing a religion nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

WELL...A precedent has already been established which allowed the government to FORBID the 'free exercise' of a religion.

That precedent came about because certain religions had 'practices' that were against federal law.

DOES NO ONE REMEMBER THIS ?????

The original MORMONS were eventually FORBIDDEN to have polygamy.

Some continued to do so anyway, for decades.

A few years ago... The FLDS was RAIDED by government LEO.

Why can the government FORBID certain practices in a religion for MORMONS, and FLDS, but not for Muslims ???

Especially when the laws about murder are much clearer than the laws about polygamy.

168 posted on 12/07/2015 2:53:04 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: MadIsh32
You are gonna have to be very specific

The Almighty is specific enough in his commands, even to the early Israelites that you have no case, if that's your basis.

I do agree requirements for ruling a "so called religion" a cult, must be carefully determined - to assume it isn't possible, even in this day and time, is simply not so.

Anyone who has knowledge of Islam knows it can never coexist with our Constitution based on Judeo-Christian beliefs.

There is no real issue for establishing a barrier to Islam, or any other cult who's doctrine attacks our God given rights.

169 posted on 12/07/2015 2:53:58 PM PST by amorphous
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To: Timpanagos1; ctdonath2

The Congress needs to find that Islam is not a religion within the meaning of the First Amendment, and remove the issue from the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court. (Can Congress remove the issue from the jurisdiction of the entire federal judiciary? I think so.)


170 posted on 12/07/2015 2:54:15 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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Trump / Cruz

Cruz / Trump

NO Rubio.

No Kasich.

Imagine if you can..

Carry On.


171 posted on 12/07/2015 2:54:48 PM PST by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: Jane Long

OH, he changed the curtains back from the blood red Bammy had up there yesterday during his Sunday Night Football interruption.


172 posted on 12/07/2015 2:54:59 PM PST by stanne
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To: ctdonath2

“Careful. Like it or not, he’s gonna slam into 1st Amendment issues.”

Didn’t realize that foreigners have a right to enter the country, or that there are limitations on who we can exclude.

I could CARE LESS what justification is used to deny people entry, they have NO RIGHT to come here, for any reason. It is TOTALLY up to the government as to who comes in, and unless you can show me how restricting immigration of Muslims (or Jews, or any other group) somehow violates freedom of religion in this country, I’ll support Trump.


173 posted on 12/07/2015 2:55:18 PM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: Jane Long

Wouldn’t it be great if someone made a yuuuge banner out of that pic of Trump in the Oval Office? Take it to Trump rallies everywhere.


174 posted on 12/07/2015 2:55:28 PM PST by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“The Congress needs to find that Islam is not a religion within the meaning of the First Amendment, and remove the issue from the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.”

That may be a way around that issue.


175 posted on 12/07/2015 2:55:36 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: ctdonath2
I agree that the inalienable rights of all people, citizens or not, are protected by the Constitution while legally withing the jurisdiction of the U.S. But isn't this discussion about disallowing muslims from traveling to the U.S.?
176 posted on 12/07/2015 2:56:06 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: ctdonath2
I don't see how Congress can prohibit entry based solely on religion.

How about prohibiting entry based on forbidden practices of a religion. Like suicide bombing and beheading and polygamy ? The government has interfered with other religions based on ILLEGAL practices.

177 posted on 12/07/2015 2:56:16 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: RoosterRedux

FINALLY, Trump is jumping in... I’ve been wanting him to do this.. on several fronts. congress - Gop - won’t... so let’s get started, The Donald! get in there and erupt!!! Let them know you are not pussyfooting around... Stop the madness that is on a high pitch until next January..

Go Trump!!


178 posted on 12/07/2015 2:57:11 PM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: Arthur McGowan
Congress needs to redefine religion.

Islam is Satanism. It's a religion alright.

Just not the kind the founding fathers knew about.

179 posted on 12/07/2015 2:58:02 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: amorphous

Not that I think about it, we probably already have enough laws on the books to eliminate the practice of Islam for conspiracy to overthrow government, to commit murder, genocide, ...


180 posted on 12/07/2015 3:01:31 PM PST by amorphous
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