Posted on 11/27/2015 9:30:12 AM PST by amorphous
By now everyone is aware of the Turkish side of the story of how a Russian Su-24 was downed by a Turkish F-16 on Tuesday morning, when it allegedly crossed into Turkish airspace for a grand total of 17 seconds, with Turkey supposedly warning the Russian bomber which had been targeting alleged jihadists in the region no less than "ten times." Turkey even produced an alleged recording of said warning, which Russia implied was faked as the surviving pilot made it very clear no actual warning had been received by the Russian warplane.
So now that Russia has had three days to go through the evidence and assemble the pieces of what it thinks happened, here is the summary as presented earlier today by the Commander in Chief of the Russian air force, Viktor Bondarev, which however presents a very gloomy picture with dire consequences for the peaceful geopolitics of the middle east.
(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...
No doubt in my mind that this ambush was co-ordinated between Obama and Turkey.
Obama’s support of ISIS is being exposed.
I too count on Russian FSB sponsored websites for all my hard news.
I’m ashamed our President is support ISIS and Turkey who supports ISIS. And now the truth is coming out
This is really rotten. First, my sympathies to the Russians and especially the family members of those servicemen. Second, whoever made these decisions need to be held accountable. That would require honesty and an interest in truth plus integrity on our part, which may be impossible under Obama. I go along with the idea that Obama is the one responsible.
A violation of that Oct. agreement with Russia should be a very serious thing.
He could well be that man of sin, the son of perdition.
Media are corrupt worldwide. Regardless, the basic timeline facts are what they are. The time it takes to prepare for an attack, to record and report it, to respond...are what they are. In this incident some facts cannot be disputed. You can dispute if the Turkey airspace was violated for 17 seconds or zero seconds, but you cannot dispute that incriminating timeline. It HAD TO BE pre planned.
I don’t think it is logical to believe that the Americans with such a tight leash on our own pilots would give the Turks the green light to shoot down a Russian jet. However, I do believe that the Muslim radicals running Turkey would take that step on their own without pre warning NATO or the US. If that is the case, its time to stop sharing information with them until a responsible government can take over the country.
After all, how many times has he stabbed his fellow Americans in the back?!
Is history trying to repeat itself? Could we substitute that Russian jet for Franz Joseph and his wife? Are the cards lining up that way?
“If Putin is in indeed onboard with this version, he will deem - perhaps not diplomatically, but certainly in internal circles - Turkey’s aggression to be an act of war, and not only by Turkey but by NATO and the US, which provided Turkey with the data it needed to lead to a Russian loss of life.”
And here are the fruits of an American population stupid enough to elect a muslim/ISIS symp into the White House not once, but TWICE. MORONS.
The missile hit the Russian jet at 10.16 which impacted the ground at 10.24. That's 8 seconds according to the Russians, and if the times are in seconds, or if I'm even reading that correctly.
Note this could be verified easily by the video. Which I did, and the video shows it took about 25 - 30 seconds from the time the aircraft was hit until it impacted, though actual missile detonation is hard to determine from the video.
Sounds travels 1 mile in 7 seconds, and I'm quite sure the jet was well below that. And it descended at a fairly steep angle at the end. So my SWAG is it traveled 2 - 3 miles after hit by the missile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwsrgyLQFuQ
With a accurate map of the impact site, one could independently calculate where the missile strike occurred with a good amount of accuracy. That would go a long way in verifying this information submitted by the Russian.
Another thing, If the Russians were totally off base / lying, I would expect counter charts / data from NATO about now.
See #16
Not just Obama...anyone who supports defending Turkey and enforcing a 'no-fly' zone over Syria is culpable.
Rubio, Christie, Fiorina, Kasich, and Jebito come to mind immediately...
Could be, as we shall soon see, IMHO.
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