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To: EternalVigilance

Your comment was ‘mostly equipped and led’. That is simply not true. The UK and Canada were not mostly equipped by the US, and for most of the war, the Allied effort was as led by the British as the US, if not more so. Only in July 44 did the US have more men fighting the Axis than the UK.

I assume your comment is related to the thread argument which is about France and Europe, so we are discussing NW Europe 1944-45. Although if we are discussing the global war, again, America did not clearly equip nor clearly ‘lead’ the Allies. The British, Commonwealth and Canadian forces were mostly equipped by their own material. And the US in fact used many British-Canadian inventions and material in all theatres. From Spitfires in the Pacific to Churchill flamethrowers in Europe. Even the P-51 was in origin a British plane.

Of course, American entry was a huge factor in Allied victory. My issue is your assertion that American entry meant Britain esp, and Canada, therefore somehow became lesser powers by US entry. That ergo US entry means the US leads the good guys from Dec 41 to Sept 45. That is simply wrong. The Allies and allied victory relied HUGELY on the British: men and material. Not to mention the military and intelligence scope of the war.

It might shock people, both UK and US, how crucial right to war’s close the British importance was. Just how huge the British contribution was in materiel, let alone men. Without British materiel, there would have been no Day, no land campaign, no victory, no liberation of the death camps in the West.........not to mention the allied victories in N Africa, Sicily and Italy.

And the Canadian contribution was also huge, comparable to the UK and US and hugely out of proportion for its population. Again, money, men and material.


100 posted on 11/29/2015 8:54:22 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Allied_invasion_of_Germany

“At the very beginning of 1945, the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force, U.S. General Dwight D. Eisenhower had 73 divisions under his command in North-western Europe, of which 49 were infantry divisions, 20 armored divisions and four airborne divisions. Forty-nine of these divisions were American, 12 British, eight French, three Canadian and one Polish. Another seven American divisions arrived during February, along with the British 5th Infantry Division and I Canadian Corps, both of which had arrived from the fighting on the Italian Front. As the invasion of Germany commenced, Eisenhower had a total of 90 full-strength divisions under his command, with the number of armored divisions now reaching 25. The Allied front along the Rhine stretched 450 mi (720 km) from the river’s mouth at the North Sea in the Netherlands to the Swiss border in the south.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Allied_invasion_of_Germany

For the moment we’ll forget about Lend Lease and the great quantity of supplies that flowed so freely from America for years.

Please explain how you would have successfully defeated the Wehrmacht and invaded Germany with a maximum of twenty-five or twenty-six divisions, and without at least 55 powerful American divisions.


101 posted on 11/29/2015 10:31:08 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The Dems are taking us to hell in a handbasket. The GOP establishment is the handbasket.)
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