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To: dragnet2
BS. I lived a total of 7 years in the region. The people who bear the greatest responsibility for the turmoil in the region is their own political leadership, which is corrupt and despotic. America has made some mistakes, but it is debatable if we could ever control events in the region. There are fundamental, deep seated problems in the culture, which has had a difficult time adjusting to modernity.

Does the creation of Israel play a role in your conspiratorial view of history?

164 posted on 11/24/2015 5:12:49 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

You know I have been bewildered as to why the US has decided to intervene in the 1500 year civil war in Islam between the Sunnis and Shias and back the wrong side.

I have been unable for the life of me to understand why in the scenario where a relatively (these things are all relative in that region) advanced nation like Iran (and to a lesser extent Syria) - which allows women to vote, to get an education, to leave their homes unaccompanied, and which tolerates Christians and Jews - is pitted against a barbarian, medieval, savagely intolerant desert kingdom like Saudi Arabia, the US and its allies backs the Saudis.

Iran hasn’t threatened US interests in almost forty years whereas a bunch of Saudis immolated a large section of downtown Manhattan in 2001 and yet Saudi Arabia “is our good friend”. Why?

I assumed this was all to do with money and that the Saudis simply bankrolled western politicians, but I think I may have grasped the underlying reason.

It’s Israel isn’t it? No this isn’t Jew-baiting, I ask the question in a spirit of genuine curiosity.

For Israel my enemy’s enemy is my friend, and Israel’s enemies have always been the same as those of Saudi Arabia (and Turkey). Israel has no real quarrel with Saudi Arabia or Turkey but has had a long history with Assad’s Syria, Saddam’s Iraq and the ayatollah’s Iran, precisely the same enemies as Saudi Arabia and Turkey. The Saudis hate Shias and other heretics more than they do the Jews.

I have the greatest of respect for Israel, they have achieved magnificent successes and long may they prosper but I think it is dangerous for the US to simply adopt Israel’s regional real-politik strategy as official US foreign policy.

I really think the US needs to look again at where this mess is taking it.


167 posted on 11/24/2015 5:28:19 PM PST by PotatoHeadMick
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To: kabar

You could be a spokesperson for Obama!

Btw, tell me more about this “Israel conspiracy” thing you mentioned. Thanks.


176 posted on 11/24/2015 6:19:15 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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