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To: jimbo123

Trump is not going to deport 11-30 million illegals. It is not going to happen. The courts would intercede and block him at every step of the way.

While not a Trump fan, here is what I think people are missing. That Trump puts this on the table and generally does not back away (though he is always talking about many coming back) he is setting the bar high. If Trump can’t actually deport them all, at least we know this is a priority for him and he would, hopefully, fight to get rid of as many illegals as possible. That he additionally argues that birthright citizenship should be revoked, again to endless criticism, also conveys that getting our arms around this illegal alien problem is at least a possibility in a Trump administration.

It’s like the start of a negotiation, and it is one that Trump takes endless flack for but sticks to it. If you’ve already conceded there is nothing we can do about the illegal problem, then it is a sure bet nothing will get done under your watch.

At minimum Trump should be able to build a wall, deport felons, enact Kate’s law and hopefully enforce eVerify which allows us to punish businesses for hiring illegals and drying up the very reason they come here. Sadly Trump attacked Romney for this position in 2012 as being too tough on illegals, but as “the Donald” is making this a cornerstone of his campaign hopefully he will take another look at using eVerify to achieve his goals.

So, again, not a Trump fan, but I support his immigration proposals and applaud the fact that, against heavy pressure, he has generally stuck to his guns on it.


46 posted on 11/12/2015 10:12:45 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Trump is not going to deport 11-30 million illegals. It is not going to happen. The courts would intercede and block him at every step of the way.

I agree with most of your post but I think that you are largely mistaken in this statement. A high percentage of illegal aliens can be deported with no courts blocking anything. Even the Obama administration which has no desire to deport anyone has been forced to deport over 2 million people because it is the law. You don't have to fight all that hard to just follow the law. If Obama was trying to even passively follow the law instead of trying to selectively enforce it... at least twice as many would have been deported during his administration.

Still the primary way that you get rid of illegal interlopers is not deportation; it to make their continued residence here untenable. This can be done just by enforcing laws we already have. So what Are the Penalties for Hiring an Illegal Immigrant?

"Hiring illegal immigrants can lead to many severe penalties, such as: Criminal and civil fines Loss of business licenses Most fines are broken down to the following:

First offenders can be fined $250-$2,000 per illegal employee.

For a second offense, the fine is $2,000-$5,000 per illegal employee.

Three or more offenses can cost an employer $3000-$10,000 per illegal employee.

A pattern of knowingly employing illegal immigrants can mean extra fines and up to six months in jail for an employer. This does not include “harboring” illegal immigrants, or employing ten or more illegal immigrants in one year. Harboring an illegal immigrant can lead to ten years of prison time.

Additionally, employers should be aware of the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act. Employers can be sued under the act for hiring illegal immigrants, and can face large settlement deals. The lawfully documented workers of the Zirkle Fruit Company recently settled a class action lawsuit brought under RICO. The suit alleged that their employer knowingly hired undocumented workers, driving down their wages.”

See more at: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/penalties-for-employers-hiring-illegal-immigrants.html#sthash.Ix2SGoCT.dpuf

If these laws were being more than selectively enforced we wouldn't have an illegal alien problem. Instead we are giving them free housing, free food, free school, and free everything else largely based on the presence of anchor babies. And employers do not worry at all about hiring illegals because they have been allowed to make a mockery of the laws by accepting any false documentation they want and then claiming ignorance.

If the laws were enforced and especially if the liberal bed wetter interpretation of a 100 year old ruling that had nothing to do with anchor babies was finally challenged... we wouldn't have to deport 11-30 million illegals. Without jobs, free housing and welfare they would leave on their own. Even though they should pay for their own transportation out of the country... I personally am not opposed to the federal government providing them with a bus ride to a warm location somewhere a couple hundred miles south of the border. But that is just me because I like to help people.

59 posted on 11/12/2015 11:02:01 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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