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1 posted on 11/12/2015 8:52:21 AM PST by jimbo123
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And somehow they are here today. That program was NOT successful at all. It probably made it worse.


68 posted on 11/12/2015 9:47:31 AM PST by napscoordinator
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Here’s how you get rid of most of them:

1) Build the wall - fast.

2) Outlaw birthright citizenship - unless one of your parents is an American citizen at the time of your birth, you can’t be an American unless you immigrate legally and go through the same process as anyone else.

3) Fine one small, one medium and one large employer IN EACH STATE the maximum amount per illegal employee, and feature stories about it in the press and media (like all of the stories about tax evaders in the weeks leading up to April 15).

4) Pass a law stating that anyone who immigrates here is forbidden for 10 years to be on ANY form of public assistance - federal, state or local. Ditto for any crimes (not parking violations or other victimless crimes, but specifically including ANY drug offense).

5) No illegal gets citizenship - EVER, even if we let them stay because they are otherwise decent and law-abiding members of society.

6) Blanket Central and South American newspapers with ads letting the people there know that the free ride in America is OVER: there’s a fence, no birthright citizenship, no jobs unless you come in legally, no welfare or food stamps, etc.

Most will self-deport after these steps are implemented. Self-deportation is easy - hop on a bus or plane and leave. No one will try to stop you. If you can’t afford it, we’ll happily pay the fare, and even provide you with a shower, food and a new set of clothes. But just go.


70 posted on 11/12/2015 9:56:58 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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Good riddance Rubio. His watered down plan is as wide as the Texas Sky for all to see. See ya on the sidelines while Trump takes the lead and CRUZs ahead of you! ha :)


75 posted on 11/12/2015 10:09:29 AM PST by djstex
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Hey Marco - what other laws are you going to single handedly abolish because American Sugar wants slavery-lite working the fields?
76 posted on 11/12/2015 10:09:34 AM PST by GOPJ
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"The flip side of it is I do not believe you can round up and deport 11 million, especially people that have been here 15 years, have not otherwise violated the laws, can pass background checks and so forth," he continued.

It would be interesting to try it. All of them are criminals. All of them are committing an ongoing crime by being here and most are committing other crimes to cover it up. Some are career criminals who are only here to engage in violent crime, drug crime, and illegal prostitution.

If we tried rounding illegals up, we might be surprised how many would leave on their own, particularly if we charged them for the costs of rounding them up and deportation. If we tried fining employers seriously rather than a token effort every election year, we might be surprised how many jobs would go to Americans instead of to illegals. The remaining jobs would still go to foreigners, one way or another, but they would go to them legally.

The sad thing about today's politics is that the most compassionate thing for foreigner workers is to enforce the law. Hillary/Jeb/Rubio's policies encourage the abuse of those people. If we restored the rule of law, those who did come would have the full protection of the law, and would make more money for working here - exactly what the Chamber of Commerce and the big government liberals are trying to avoid. If I were a skilled worker from another country trying to get a job that no American wanted, I would support Cruz or Trump.

80 posted on 11/12/2015 10:17:27 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Bullen Sh&t.

My father was an illegal immigrant around 1950. He was originally from the Netherlands and wanted to get the heck out of Europe. He was educated at the University of Leiden having passed the intensive training in medical instrument making which is a little higher than tool and die maker. He went to Vancouver, Canada got a seasonal job with Alcan working in Kitimat, Canada. I have his world record medal for building what a that time was the worlds largest tunnel, dam, smelter project. His responsibility was to keep all those machines running. He was important enough to have his own cabin as opposed to staying in the dorm. Business shut down during the winter months.

http://www.kitimatmuseum.ca/node/37

My father wanted to come to the States so bad he grew impatient. He and his brother crossed the Canadian/US border with their new car and headed to the San Fransisco area. He got a job with the defense industry making missile triggers. They lived in Berkly. After a few months there was a knock on the door midday. My uncle was unemployed. He recognized the INS officers before opening the door, he headed out the back door, took the car and drove back to the Canadian border.

Later that day my father came home and was welcomed by two INS officers in his living room. He was arrested and put in jail for one night. In the morning, he was made an offer that he could not refuse. He was offered the opportunity to voluntarily go back to Canada and get back into line to come to the US OR he could refuse to go back, get deported and never ever come to the US. He chose the former. He finally came to Chicago, the Tool and Die Capitol of the world, in 1956 with his green card.

In short, Trump is right, Rubio, Jeb and all the others are full of shit. FYI, the way they located my father, when he crossed the border the border guards took down his license plate number. When the car did not return they tracked my dad down. All this was done without computers. This Fedzilla no can do attitude is insulting to us law abiding Americans.

81 posted on 11/12/2015 10:17:52 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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Has anybody checked Ricky Ricardo Rubio's papers?

Maybe he's worried Trump will deport him.

84 posted on 11/12/2015 10:30:09 AM PST by turducken
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Regarding deporting an unknown number of illegal immigrants, low-information Sen. Rubio evidently does not care when somebody else is paying the bill.

More specifically, regardless of PC, pro-welfare interpretations of the General Welfare Clause (1.8.1), since the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to tax and spend for welfare purposes, as a taxpayer I object to helping to pay for unconstitutional federal welfare for anybody, especially illegal immigrants, law-abiding or the criminal type.

Sen. Rubio is another good example why the ill-conceived 17th Amendment should never have been ratified.

85 posted on 11/12/2015 10:30:15 AM PST by Amendment10
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Cut off the free money and watch them scatter like cockroaches.


86 posted on 11/12/2015 10:30:40 AM PST by Politicalkiddo ("We have too many high sounding words, and too few actions that correspond with them." Abigail Adams)
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In this country it’s unrealistic to prove your identity before you vote for president.


87 posted on 11/12/2015 10:31:08 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Democrats have covens, not conventions.)
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Enters country illegally = Criminal. Solved.


88 posted on 11/12/2015 10:37:58 AM PST by TheGunny
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You wouldn’t have to. When Eisenhower did his deportation, most left voluntarily (self-deported.) The same thign would happen this time.

Cut off their benefits, increase the penalties for employing them (stiffer fines AND prison time), and they’ll be gone before you can say “Marco Rubio.”


89 posted on 11/12/2015 10:39:11 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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Um, hey Marco...you don’t have to deport 11M people, you just start deporting (and/or prosecuting) them, and millions will leave on their own.


91 posted on 11/12/2015 10:44:19 AM PST by Mich Patriot ("The problem with quotes found on the Internet is they are often not true." - Abraham Lincoln)
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But it’s not unrealistic to reward criminals with Citizenship and taxpayer money, eh, Marco? I tell you another thing that is highly unrealistic Marco...........my ever voting for you!


92 posted on 11/12/2015 10:46:37 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Even if we just deport 5 million, that’s better than nothing.


93 posted on 11/12/2015 10:52:50 AM PST by LydiaLong
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Actually we don’t have to deport, just make the hiring of an illegal a felony and adopt Mexicos way of how they deal with illegals: 1st offense you do a year in jail. 2nd offense you do 10 years.


97 posted on 11/12/2015 12:02:15 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 20 acts of Treason and counting.)
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Unrealistic to “eliminate ‘racism’” too . . .but why aren’t you saying that, Marco?


98 posted on 11/12/2015 12:07:28 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (In Missouri, and coming to a State near you, #BlackLiesMatter)
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If it’s unrealistic to deport 11 million people,
how realistic is it to grant 11 million people citizenship?


101 posted on 11/12/2015 12:16:35 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Rubio supposedly is of Cuban extraction, but this certainly makes him sound more like a Mexi-cant.


104 posted on 11/12/2015 1:30:47 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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No chance I'll be voting for Marco or Ben.
I like Rush's analogy.
If 12 million tax payers suddenly decided to illegally not pay their taxes you can be damn sure they would be found, due process done, convicted, and separated from their families into prison.
It is unrealistic to say the US can not find, deport 12 million or so illegal alien invaders who are largely here to suck on the teat of public services in various forms, raping Americans, drunk drive murdering Americans, thieving from Americans, and spreading diseases --- all so Obama can fundamentally transform America into a third world crap hole.
107 posted on 11/15/2015 7:50:39 AM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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