Posted on 11/11/2015 2:56:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
During last night’s debate, John Kasich derided Donald Trump’s immigration stance, calling it “a silly argument†to promise that Trump would deport all illegal immigrants. “We all know you can’t pack them up and ship them back across the border,†Kasich said directly to Trump. Trump insisted he could do it, although he still gave no details on how he plans to do so. Earlier today, on Morning Joe, Trump elaborated a little more, adopting Mika Brzezinski’s nomenclature by promising a “deportation force†to carry out the mission:
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David Rutz at the Free Beacon captures the exchange:
Trump, who has frequently promised a giant “wall†between the U.S. and Mexico that the latter would pay for, was explaining a sect of his immigration stance when MSNBC co-host Mika Brzezinski asked him how exactly he would deport the millions of illegal immigrants living in the country.
“Are you going to have a massive deportation force?†she asked.
“You’re going to have a deportation force, and you’re going to do it humanely and you’re going to bring the country–and frankly, the people, because you have some excellent, wonderful people, some fantastic people that have been here for a long period of time,†Trump said. “Don’t forget, Mika, that you have millions of people that are waiting [in] line to come into this country, and they’re waiting to come in legally.â€
A deportation force? Presumably this is different than ICE, with a specialized mission to find 11 million people living among a population of over 300 million, and in the narrow time frame that Trump has previously promised (one year, in a previous debate). Would this be a paramilitary operation, or a law-enforcement agency? If so, how much money would it cost, and how exactly would they round up 11 million people? More to the point, do conservatives really believe that launching a new “deportation force†is consonant with limited-government principles, or more of a giant leap toward a police state?
Put it a different way: Would anyone trust Hillary Clinton with a “deportation force� Or Barack Obama?
Now, it’s fair to note that the phrase in this case came from Brzezinski, and not Trump. However, that just adds to the perception that Trump is winging it, rather than offering a well-thought-out policy. If he had a policy that didn’t include a “deportation force,†then Trump would hardly have gone along with Brzezinski on this point. At least when pressed to explain his immigration policies, Trump mainly ends up mouthing platitudes about a “beautiful wall†(which is good policy), and vague promises to eject millions of people without any specificity about how that gets accomplished. The “deportation force†comment should be a warning not just to conservatives about Trump’s predilection for top-down authority, but also that he’s largely offering nothing but slogans that he thinks people want to hear.
I will volunteer.
The Nazis put people in concentration camps. These people have to go home, how cruel. /sarc
How many Nazis did the US forces deport from France in 1944 in a matter of months?
We have the technology!
Eisenhower didn’t create a new gov agency to handle it as it was handled under the existing INS. He did bring in a specialist to put a commission together to handle the operation. See the post right above this one @ #17.
That is the key. They have very low educations and skills. Take away the freebies and they CAN’T make it. If their anchor babies are not citizens to draw benefits there is No reason to stay.
What’s the bag limit?
...welfare, free education, free healthcare, in-state tuition, and as you said - employment. They will leave on their own. There will be plenty of carnage as they’re leaving, but I’m thinking we can live with that short-term.
Although I’m sure plenty of them are wonderful people, they shouldn’t be treated better than any Citizen. And the vast majority...aren’t wonderful...they’re here for a free ride.
Hot Air Spin: A deportation force? Presumably this is different than ICE,
Presumably Not. I answered this question in post 17 and post 24.
I’ll admit that the Mexican invader is warm, rich and deep. He has proper relations with his family and is kind to his dog. The kicker being he will be just the same warm wonderful person in Mexico City.
Thanks
Ya know, one way to black knight this might be to ask the people who are against deportation why they are so insulting towards Latin American countries, implying that these places are absolute hellholes unfit for human habitation.
I will volunteer free of charge on weekends!
Folks there is a insta check system in place to check if a person has a visa or not.
There are laws that employers must not hire illegals. If Trump or Cruz wanted to start fining Scumbag Cheap Labor Express Employers thousand of dollars per day the Illegals would find themselves unemployed.
If they told My town Vegas to stop educating over 100,000 illegal kids, and our town is still doing lousy, then the illegals would have to watch their kids. Its costing us tens of millions of dollars every year just in Vegas to educate Mexican citizens.
Without welfare, food stamps, healthcare, schools, jobs they would self deport, they know the ways back home.
Anyone who says different doesn’t know that is how Mexico does it.
Correct. What I would take from that is Trump appreciates the power of disinformation, just as much as Ike did.
“They were decently fed, and then they were decently shot”
I’m not sure how to take the “warm, rich and deep” part. I’m sure it was sarcasm, or a play on it, but what exactly did you say?
We always hear just how wonderful the invader is. I was being sarcastic.
I would assume the deportation force would first seek out criminals and drug dealers, but I repeat myself. That will be a full time job in and of itself.
There’s an idea. I could make thousands in my neighborhood.
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