[Cold Heat]

I'll say it again.. Which contradicts your previous claim that "you can plainly see that it was never really tried. They abused the Constitution from the start!"

I just posted some anecdotal proof that they did abuse it from the start. Now the start does not mean the first day or the first congress. I could use other quips like "before the ink was dry". I think 1828 is pretty early, don't you, and this sort of thing probably was happening before this, as you can see from the vote. I would , if I was researching it, continue to go back until I found one that failed to get the vote needed. I would use the next one that succeeded as the first. Then list and count them and add some footnotes about the subject matter.. But I am not doing that research.

[ConservingFreedom]

Which contradicts your previous claim that "you can plainly see that it was never really tried. They abused the Constitution from the start!"

the start does not mean the first day or the first congress.

What does "never" mean to you?