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To: ConservingFreedom
As close as you got to "evidence" for your claim above was a probably-fabricated statement from someone not a member of the first Congress.

I need no evidence for my opinion. I have history and I have my own eyes and ears. I have today's reality.

Your counter argument falls just as flat as Madisons. You don't even have proof that Federalism as you would have it, ever worked, because you can plainly see that it was never really tried. They abused the Constitution from the start!

The reasons are pretty simple. They had to get everyone on board and accepting of what they had created...

As with any deal made between parties with different opinions, each of the parties agreed to it but like Congress, they made reservations and believed that they could correct it later.

That correction process began almost immediately with different interpretations...and it continues today.

Guess what? That's politics. I can explain how the Constitution was bastardized, but I cannot think of a single way to reverse a process that has gone on for two, going on three centuries.

One interesting anecdote that is fairly new, is the European Union. There you have several small countries, some of them no bigger than some of our States who are now trying a European form of federalism. The trouble they are having is that there is too much water under the bridge regarding their interlocking histories, much longer that ours.

But it's yet another aspect of the impossibility one would face if one would seriously try to reverse 250 years of government.

So my statement is quite true about the general welfare wording...Both Congress and the SCOTUS use it to justify this or that, plus a bevy of other little bastardizations created over the last 200+ years.

Oh.....but that's a violation of the 10th amendment!

It's pitiful, historically speaking, but you cannot change it. For me to say it is so now, is correct. For you to say it was so then, is correct. It depends on what perspective of time you have. Therefore I will not accept your criticism. Not now, not tomorrow, or ever..

230 posted on 11/13/2015 2:40:20 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
you can plainly see that it was never really tried. They abused the Constitution from the start!

So you keep claiming - while refusing to provide evidence. Your unsupported claims are worth every penny I paid for them.

231 posted on 11/13/2015 2:43:42 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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