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To: ConservingFreedom

Something else here that you paleo’s or whatever you self identify as never acknowledge.

Madison was engaged in a argument, so there are at least two sides to it.

In any argument there is a winner and a loser.

Madison obviously lost that argument.

If he had won it, we would still see Federalism in our government and we would not see constant attempts, many successful to destroy it.

We would have hundreds of amendments and not less than 30.

That argument was lost, probably in 1788.

It’s utterly foolish to believe for a single second that you can change that after 250 years by bitching about it as did Madison at the founding..at day 1.

Sure, I would like to see a return to Federalism. Not convinced how you could possibly do that by argument. As I have tried to explain, I believe that one day will come a opportunity to rebuild from scratch. It would be only a small community of people, perhaps as small as the original population...I don’t know how many will survive the starvation, disease and chaotic violence.

I expect the global populations to be reduced by more than half.

If you live through it, you may get your chance to remake it. (The Fed Gov) but make damn sure you burn every piece of paper that comprised the body of law and congressional record that we work from today. Destroy it all.

I’ll be long gone, but that will be the only chance you will get to fix it.


226 posted on 11/13/2015 2:13:37 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat
Madison obviously lost that argument.

Did he?

He warned us what would happen if we abandoned those fundamental principles, and it sure looks to me like he had it right.

227 posted on 11/13/2015 2:18:35 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Cold Heat
If he had won it, we would still see Federalism in our government and we would not see constant attempts, many successful to destroy it.

Non sequitur.

We would have hundreds of amendments and not less than 30.

Supposing that's true - so what?

228 posted on 11/13/2015 2:27:48 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: Cold Heat
By the by ... were you aware that Ted Cruz says pot policy is a matter for the states?
229 posted on 11/13/2015 2:29:37 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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