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OOPS: Donald Trump -- not exactly an expert on TPP
The Washington Examiner ^ | November 11, 2015 | staff

Posted on 11/11/2015 12:26:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

During last night's Republican presidential debate, the Wall Street Journal's Gerard Baker made a critical mistake: He tried to pin Donald Trump down on policy specifics. In this case, it was about trade policy, a subject about which Trump evidently knows very little.

Baker asked the billionaire "which particular parts" of the pending Trans-Pacific Partnership free trade deal he objected to. If he were familiar with the deal, Trump could have raised any of several issues. Instead, he continued with the same word salad about China that he has been issuing forth since long before the TPP had been negotiated and published.

"If you look at how China and India and almost everyone takes advantage of the Untied States - China in particular, because they are so good, it's the number one abuser of this country. If you look at the way they take advantage, it's through currency manipulation. It's not even discussed in the almost 6,000 page agreemen...If [TPP] is approved, it will just be more bad trade deals, more loss of jobs for our country. We are losing jobs like no one's ever lost jobs before. I want to bring jobs back into this country."

It took a clear-headed Rand Paul to bring some reality back into the conversation.

"Hey, Gerard?" Paul interjected. "We might want to point out that China's not part of this deal." The crowed roared with laughter as Trump shrunk before their eyes. (Never mind the fact that Trump had just accused India of currency manipulation - perhaps making him the first person to do so at least in the last decade.)...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dailytds; gopprimary; incorrectarticle; tds; tpp; trade; trump
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To: Chgogal

No dear, it means if you want to make a point make your argument and provide links for the forum.


101 posted on 11/11/2015 6:05:32 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
No dear, I gave you in depth information in post no. 6 that benefits China. I standby my post no. 99. You did no research on the TPP.
102 posted on 11/11/2015 6:08:34 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Chgogal; Cincinatus' Wife
Here is a link: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151109/07243932763/three-industries-that-love-tpp-hollywood-big-pharma-wall-st.shtml Ask yourself who benefits? America and Americans? Or the globalists?
103 posted on 11/11/2015 6:08:39 AM PST by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: palmer; Cincinatus' Wife

Agreed. If you go to post no. 6, and tap the link you will see the research I did about the TPP. I came to the same conclusion you have regarding Hollywood, Big Pharma, and Wall Street. China benefits as well, Palmer.


104 posted on 11/11/2015 6:16:35 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Chgogal

Then you have made your point.

What’s the problem?

The real question is, why in the world you would take Donald Trump at his word?


105 posted on 11/11/2015 6:20:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump gets the last laugh. Why? because he was right and Paul was wrong.

The mods didn’t attack Trump on TPP because they knew this fact!

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/11/11/senator-ted-cruz-did-support-tpa/


106 posted on 11/11/2015 6:22:54 AM PST by dforest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The question is, why do you post crap published by dummies who have done no research on the topic that you have done no research on just to support the point of view you have of a candidate that you are fixated on?
107 posted on 11/11/2015 6:27:09 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
TPP is over 5,000 pages long the King James Bible is less than 1800. In congressional terms longer and bigger is not better. I have not read it nor do I intend too. If Jefferson Sessions says it's bad for US Sovereignty and I see the co signing nations are not traditional friends and allies I wonder why all the secrecy of an almost pass it before you read it. That did not work for Obamacare and I doubt it works for TPP.
Freegards
LEX
108 posted on 11/11/2015 6:29:52 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As Trump plans, we should negotiate with these countries one by one. Then, if you have an issue, you can deal with it expeditiously—without the interference of an unaccountable bureaucratic monstrosity—and without ceding our sovereignty as a free constitutional republic.

The TPP is just another NWO stratagem to crush us.


109 posted on 11/11/2015 6:30:04 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The fact that only Trump may and I say “may” get any cross-over votes in the general is one of the main reasons he should be the nominee. Cruz/Rubio would be better...but the Gang Of Parasites would torpedo them as they did Sarah Palin.

Search your feelings...you know this to be true.
TRUMP IS YOUR FATHER!

Sorry...just lost my mind for a moment....

Cruz would be great...but he will not garner one vote from what is left of the Reagan union demonrats. Trump could.
And with some on our side who still support the establishment forces; another case of Romneycide is not that far fetched.

Cruz will never get the support of the establishment Gang Of Parasites. Neither will Trump. They hate The Don as much as they hate Cruz. Any cross over at all could be the difference. And as much as I love Cruz....he will not be able to garner enough cross-over votes to overcome the establishments wishy washy Bushy wushy handicap. The 7-10% support the Rinos have in this primary are NEVER going to vote for Cruz in the general nor will they vote for Trump.

Trump has a better shot of overcoming that by skimming some of what is left of the blue collar demonrats just enough to get over the line. Sadly Ted does not. Trump/Cruz could do it.

Any other ticket and the communist wins.

110 posted on 11/11/2015 6:30:23 AM PST by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
why in the world you would take Donald Trump at his word?

He'll bring home a good deal for America and Americans rather than take marching orders from multinationals. Trump is interested in his own brand, then America, so there will be some of that (a Mount Trump in every state). But I see him as strong on rights particularly the second. I don't think he would trade those to clinch some other deal.

111 posted on 11/11/2015 6:30:32 AM PST by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: Carry me back

Agreed. Trump cannot be bought.


112 posted on 11/11/2015 6:32:37 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Chgogal

I post to get information, or to pass some along.

If you don’t like the piece, refute it - defend your position and explain why you think it has merit.

But as usual, mostly, it comes down to juvenile remarks about the poster.

If someone holds a position, state it convincingly, it would go a lot farther than getting down in the mud.


113 posted on 11/11/2015 6:43:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Red Steel

It seems that no many candidates understand the currency manipulation. A few years ago, the price of gasoline was around $2 in Mexico. Now it is $4.50 and the peso has gone down about 40%.

Why is this happening? So Mexico can get more business in Mexico at the expense of the US.

That is what Trump is talking about. Rand Paul does not get it because he is not in business for himself like Trump.


114 posted on 11/11/2015 6:43:59 AM PST by GilGil
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To: JEDI4S

Good argument but.... remember who the Dems will have as their nominee - Hillary - and if Trump loses the nomination, he said that he would back the nominee.


115 posted on 11/11/2015 6:46:08 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dynoman

I’m not saying Trump wouldn’t beat Hillary...I would hope that he or any other republican nominee would.
But some of you use phrases like “Trump is the only one who can beat Hillary”, or “look at the rally sizes”.
A few days/weeks before the last election, a lot of us thought Romney was going to win based on his crowd sizes compared to Obama’s crowd sizes.

And look at the RealClear politics average
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

And a few days ago 1 particular poll came out that showed that of the top four republicans (Trump, Carson, Rubio, Cruz) only Trump was behind Clinton.

We/you at this point can’t use polls or crowd sizes to say...”we have to nominate this guy or that guy.”


116 posted on 11/11/2015 6:53:55 AM PST by kygolfman
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To: miss marmelstein

Apparently you hold that NY is better than where most of us live - in “flyover” land - but do not fool yourself into thinking that you are superior to, or smarter than us; the fact that you often bring up your geographic location near Trump as some sort of stick to poke non-Trumpsters is so, so like Trump (arrogant, juvenile nonsense).


117 posted on 11/11/2015 6:54:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You posted an opinion piece published by someone who did zip research on the topic but supported your point of view on a topic you did no research and know nothing about to bash a candidate you dislike.

I asked you what research you have done and you responded in by telling me to get my own links, when I already had provided you links in post no. 6.

So, why did you post a rubbish piece on a topic you did not research?

118 posted on 11/11/2015 6:56:48 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Chgogal

I always took that as an opportunity to post the facts, I didn’t whine.


119 posted on 11/11/2015 6:59:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Chgogal

And btw, if you feel that you have successfully presented your case, why do you keep pounding the table?


120 posted on 11/11/2015 7:01:55 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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