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To: Cboldt
-- You only cited Texas code in the post I replied to. --

I was citing elements of federal RICO in post 125. If I confused them in another post, then my apologies.

-- Are you retreating from your statement that "All that has to be shown is that the perps acted in unison to achieve the same objective(s)."? --

Absolutely. LOL! I was speaking off the cuff as seems to be the general practice on this forum. There are many more tests to be met. I cited the state code for organized crime in order to clarify what the law was regarding the definitions of gangs or criminal organizations. I don't think enough is known by the general public as to whether or not the tests can be made for a conspiracy, or whether or not conditions were met for organized criminal behavior in the parking lot crime scene. However, a picture is worth a thousand words, and I can tell you by the evidence displayed in the CNN video inside the restaurant that about 6 or 7 of those individuals appear to be violating the law. Now, if those individuals can mount an affirmative defense, I would be interested to know what that would be.

145 posted on 11/12/2015 1:29:58 PM PST by eastexsteve
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To: eastexsteve
Here again you repeat this loose talk form of accusation;

Fromwhat I saw, there was one man who fired a weapon -- at who or what is not known. That didn't look so good. There's one.

There another guy, a heavy-set guy who had his own weapon drawn and held at the ready...periodically aiming it generally towards where gunshots apparently were being exchanged, all while other guys scrambled to escape the combat zone, where people WERE getting shot and nine ended up being killed, more wounded by gunfire also.

What law is that guy guilty of breaking? Pulling out a weapon in public, while not law enforcement officer?

It looks to me like he was quite likely looking to protect himself and others from the not unreasonable concern (even flat-out FEAR) that somebody with a gun, and ill-intents towards himself and those nearby around himself, would follow those who were fleeing the parking lot seeking to get away from the fighting and gunfire and try to SHOOT THEM.

He looked like he was standing ready to confront that possibility -- and not allow that to occur, if he could stop it.

Is that one of the guys you see as a "law breaker"?

157 posted on 11/12/2015 3:16:40 PM PST by BlueDragon
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