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Will Kelo Decision Finally Sink Donald Trump?
PJ Media ^ | 11/05/2015 | Michael Walsh

Posted on 11/05/2015 10:09:15 AM PST by Freemeorkillme

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To: American Constitutionalist

Can’t believe you fail to see economic impacts of both.

Importing cheap foreign workers lowers wages of all American workers, and causes American citizens to lose their jobs.

Building Keystone pipeline IMPROVES standard of living of Americans.


141 posted on 11/05/2015 11:27:42 AM PST by entropy12 (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS or it is Amnesty! Only Trump has no rich donors pushing for cheap labor express)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; Jane Long

Please point to where on Cruz’s web-sire he uses the words “deport all illegals”.


142 posted on 11/05/2015 11:29:01 AM PST by entropy12 (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS or it is Amnesty! Only Trump has no rich donors pushing for cheap labor express)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; Jane Long

Please point to where on Cruz’s web-sire he uses the words “deport all illegals”.


143 posted on 11/05/2015 11:29:01 AM PST by entropy12 (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS or it is Amnesty! Only Trump has no rich donors pushing for cheap labor express)
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To: Cold Heat

Well now you know how it feels...taking words and turning them around...good lesson for all to learn...

And I still believe that Cruz would make a great V.P. and then go on to the Supreme Court...

GO TRUMP GO!!!


144 posted on 11/05/2015 11:29:21 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: Calpublican

That is because we see Trump winning, and having long coattails, it is not because we do not like Cruz. If Trump wins the nomination, he will be elected president, and then very likely Cruz will be president someday. if Trump is knocked out of the race, Bush will be the nominee and Hillary will be president, and Cruz will be has been. Take your blinders off, and look at the way things really are, please!


145 posted on 11/05/2015 11:29:49 AM PST by erkelly
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To: georgiegirl

The question is not should it ever be used, but when it should and when it should not be used.

When should it be used ?

When should it not be used ?


146 posted on 11/05/2015 11:30:31 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

“There’s the thing you are missing. No one is objecting to the use of eminent domain for public works projects like roads, bridges, etc. That is clearly constitutional (within certain limitations), and uncontroversial. What people are objecting to (and what Trump is supporting) is the use of eminent domain to transfer private property from one private owner to another, for the purpose of private development of the land. That’s not a “public use,” and so it is not permitted by the Constitution (black-robed idiots in Kelo notwithstanding). “

I still don’t understand the offense. It’s ok to build roads, bridges, and other things that will COST money every year to maintain, thereby creating a new drain on tax resources,,that’s ok....right?

But getting a court to induce a settlement to build a parking lot, business, etc, that will INCREASE tax revenue is not ok?

What? I thought we didn’t want Daddy Govt to own everything?


147 posted on 11/05/2015 11:30:43 AM PST by austinaero
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

When did Trump do that? Where?


148 posted on 11/05/2015 11:31:03 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Forgotten Amendments; Always Right

100 posts and about 80 have no clue what Kelo was and the difference between legit eminent domain and what Kelo did and what Trump repeatedly tried to do.
What a mess.


Indeed.

To quote Always Right years ago “the Supreme Court redefined ‘public use’ to mean private development, that is where the Constitution was raped of meaning.”

Is really a non-issue??


149 posted on 11/05/2015 11:31:13 AM PST by Freemeorkillme
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; miss marmelstein
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/22/nyregion/a-homeowner-who-refused-to-cash-out-in-a-gambling-town-may-have-missed-her-chance.html?_r=0

Madame Coking made a poor financial decision. I am also posting a wikipedia link so you can see what Penthouse did to her property. She was way too stubborn. When the big boys want something either negotiate well or get out of Dodge. FYI, two other holdouts did well. They were not as stubborn as Coking and made a lot of money..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Coking

150 posted on 11/05/2015 11:31:16 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: erkelly

Why are there gun restriction laws in hundreds of cities and counties? What happened to 2-A? Are you marching in protest in those places? Why hung up on 1 isolated incidence of Kelo? Is it because you do not like Trump?


151 posted on 11/05/2015 11:31:55 AM PST by entropy12 (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS or it is Amnesty! Only Trump has no rich donors pushing for cheap labor express)
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To: thackney

Yup......but I don’t think they gave it due process in their thinking...

That clause, IMO has been grossly misinterpreted and at best is a feudal law remnant that conflicts with private property.

They sure could have written it better, because today you can see derivatives of this line of thinking in many other agencies, including BLM, DOD, HUD and even Medicaid and Medicare.

In reality today, private property is a mirage.


152 posted on 11/05/2015 11:32:39 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

No, he offered her 1.9 million; you don’t round down on that number. Because she was the PROPERTY OWNER she got to keep her house, didn’t she? I don’t understand who the cronies you refer to are (the local government?) and how the land managed to get transferred to him and yet she remained in her house. That doesn’t make any sense. I don’t approve of eminent domain in the hands of developers. I do not agree with Trump about this. But he did make a generous offer to her which is better than most sleazy developers. Asbury Partners, I mean you!


153 posted on 11/05/2015 11:33:24 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: erkelly

Yes, I realize Trump appears to have a better chance of winning and I will vote for him if he is the candidate.

I prefer Cruz.


154 posted on 11/05/2015 11:34:18 AM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: sparklite2

I believe all men were created equal, but some races have been indoctrinated to the point by the left, Marxsim where it seems impossible for them to be redeemable.


155 posted on 11/05/2015 11:34:22 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Freemeorkillme

It is not a non-issue. That’s why it is constantly debated on FR. I think most freepers despise the abuse of ed. But it is not the only issue when supporting Trump.


156 posted on 11/05/2015 11:35:29 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Donald Trump, a private citizen, could not seize anyone’s property. The government was the entity who invoked eminent domain, not Donald Trump. The Your outrage should be directed at the people actually responsible; the people who said yes instead of no.


157 posted on 11/05/2015 11:35:58 AM PST by erkelly
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To: miss marmelstein
No, he offered her 1.9 million; you don’t round down on that number. Because she was the PROPERTY OWNER she got to keep her house, didn’t she? I don’t understand who the cronies you refer to are (the local government?) and how the land managed to get transferred to him and yet she remained in her house. That doesn’t make any sense. I don’t approve of eminent domain in the hands of developers. I do not agree with Trump about this. But he did make a generous offer to her which is better than most sleazy developers. Asbury Partners, I mean you!

If it was 1.9 million, then rounding down was my mistake - I had seen 1.1 million elsewhere.

Anyways, she kept the house because she was able to fight off the eminent domain seizure in court. The point is not that she lost her house, it's that Trump tried to take it. That is what sheds light on his views on the topic (both the narrow topic of eminent domain, and more broadly on the topic of the extent of government power).

158 posted on 11/05/2015 11:36:19 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: austinaero

No worries. I always wear my asbestos suit when defending the America First candidate. Waiting for 45 years since becoming US citizen to see a nationalist candidate run for president.


159 posted on 11/05/2015 11:37:04 AM PST by entropy12 (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS or it is Amnesty! Only Trump has no rich donors pushing for cheap labor express)
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To: erkelly
Donald Trump, a private citizen, could not seize anyone’s property. The government was the entity who invoked eminent domain, not Donald Trump. The Your outrage should be directed at the people actually responsible; the people who said yes instead of no.

Donald Trump was the largest (or one of the largest) hotel and casino developers in a city that was almost entirely dependent on tax revenue from hotels and casinos. They said yes because Donald Trump asked.

160 posted on 11/05/2015 11:37:16 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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