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To: Trumpinator

IT IS NOT FUNNY OF COURSE, given the loss of life and carnage. The way you worded it, was funny. And although they are certainly entitled to civil rights . . . don’t know of anyone here disputing that . . . personal responsibility is equally important and not contradictory to civil rights.

What causes grown men, to go to a venue en masse, prepared for at least fisticuffs even if sensibly fleeing gunfire? I would have to look up the name of the man who took money to his ex-wife for his kids before driving that fatal day to Waco, because he WAS going to Waco for his Club, and didn’t expect to come back alive; and he didn’t. What kind of culture does that to a man and his kids? OK they are entitled to all civil rights. But social responsibility . . .? A man is more beholden to live to provide for his own kids, than to die in Waco. Apparently the biker culture demands otherwise.

Civil rights? Of course! Personal responsibility? First and foremost because that is how we take care of our families.

WHAT culture demands a guy ride to Waco to DIE, and leave his children fatherless?? That is Tragedy 101. Worry about the civil rights of those arrested? OK. Who is crying for the widows and orphans that the Club culture demands as sacrifice to the Club over women and children? Hmmm?


65 posted on 11/04/2015 1:54:45 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: AMDG&BVMH

I love mechanical things like bikes but I can’t buy the idea these outlaw bikers are just guys out for a joyride with their chums. I think their values hurt society every but as much as the Mafia types or the Blood and Crips types who also have caches of cool in our collective imagination. I mean I love watching Gangster movies and admire how they dress and eat in a fantasy setting but I don’t want their values in real life.


66 posted on 11/04/2015 2:00:58 PM PST by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: AMDG&BVMH
I would have to look up the name of the man who took money to his ex-wife for his kids before driving that fatal day to Waco, because he WAS going to Waco for his Club, and didn’t expect to come back alive; and he didn’t.

That's a new one to me. Mind finding and sharing?

67 posted on 11/04/2015 2:24:43 PM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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