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CBS News: 'Many Hit With Obamacare Sticker Shock
TownHall ^ | Nov 02, 2015 | Guy Benson

Posted on 11/02/2015 3:45:48 PM PST by bob_denard

As Obamacare enters its third year of implementation, CBS News points out what we've been highlighting for months -- the 'Affordable' Care Act continues to be a promise-breaking misnomer for millions of consumers:

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare
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To: Karl Spooner

God help us if Norm can’t teach us.


201 posted on 11/02/2015 7:56:51 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: Karl Spooner

But you wouldn’t learn anything about the actual topic being discussed.

Which you don’t seem to wish to address. And thats fine. Because the three/four of you have once again proven beyond doubt that conservative government isn’t what you want. if you did, you’d advocate and vote for conservatives, not make excuses 3 years gone for a failed liberal. Winning is all you care about. And you don’t really care who or what you win with. Just that you win.

I’ll check back later to hear the musical sound of my own typing because as I said the first time, you aren’t listening. So one of us should get a happy from it.


202 posted on 11/02/2015 7:58:08 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: diamond6

Please Norm, teach us you wisdom. Who did you vote for?


203 posted on 11/02/2015 7:58:43 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Norm Lenhart

The topic is how do we end up getting where we are today.

It wasn’t by voting for Romney, instead of Obama.


204 posted on 11/02/2015 8:01:14 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I know you will get around to the Republican votes on Obamacare sooner or latter. If you still resist that, maybe you could post the Democratic votes for it?


205 posted on 11/02/2015 8:03:37 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: doug from upland
You have a strange way of showing your disdain for Mitchie McTurtle when you cast POTUS votes for the likes of Romney. Conservatives owe Romney NOTHING, not our votes, not our respect, not even civilized treatment. He is a major enemy of EVERYTHING that conservatives and real Americans believe.

You would think that a man as successful as Bill Gates would know better than to abandon capitalism since he has done so well at it. Just like you would think that Romney as a successful plutocrat would be reliable at least on economics. Never mind that he, like Gates, is a major cheerleader FOR abortion on demand, funded by morally outraged taxpayers, is a major supporter of perversion posing as "marriage" and a gun grabber and appointed nothing but radicals and rampaging social revolutionaries to the Taxachusetts courts, organized a business to profit by disposing of the corpses of the little victims of baby-killing in the womb (seeing a real profit center in helping the killers to avoid the actions of pro-lifers photographing the contents of abortion mill dumpsters. Obozo=Willard=Obozo, etc. Rinse and repeat. That is WTF.

I have often thought well of your sense of humor and creativity in creating parodies here. Sadly your support of Romney (no better than Obozo and sometimes even worse) is not a source of even parody or humor. You are actually serious about Romney which means you don't have much of a grasp of the reality of the monster Willard. When he was nominated, that nomination GUARANTEED Obozo's re-election. The old GOP and the GOP-E are no longer capable of beating the Demonrats in POTUS elections since they absolutely REFUSE to nominate conservatives fr POTUS. We give the elitist crooks the House and they say they can do nothing without controlling the Senate. We give them control of the Senate and they say they can do nothing without one of THEIR own in the White Mosque. If we were foolish enough to elect a slimebag like Romney, they would be telling us that they can't do anything unless we control all of the state legislatures, city councils and sheriff's office. If we gave them that, they would knock themselves out coming up with further excuses to the base for their absolute failure to fight. Face it. They don't WANT to fight because they agree with Obozo and the reds who run the Demonratic Party. His agenda was Boehner's, Cantor's , McCarthy's, McConnell's, Thad Cockroach's, John Cornyn's, etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum ad nauseam. They are despicable political cowards and turncoats and ideological treasonweasels and so is Romney in spades. They play for the other team.

Gates said that only socialism can save our country and the climate. Our elites are not even capitalists. What do you get for the man who has everything? Why, control of our government so that he may rule the rest of us, of course! Gates has also announced that, like Warren Buffett, he will be leaving his estate to Planned Barrenhood. Lie down with dogs and you will get up with fleas.

You are better than this. It does absolutely no good to defeat Obozo only to replace him with the equally despicable Romney. Romney could have done a lot more against Obozo by just putting a .45 automatic to Romney's own temple and showing some real sincerity in his Sayonara.

206 posted on 11/02/2015 8:56:28 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Romney like Obozo required elderly nuns’ policies to subsidize and provide for abortion coverage.


207 posted on 11/02/2015 9:00:05 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

Well look at they types of people that continue to support him. They are every bit the evil he is. So it’s not really surprising. He has ongoing support so why should he do anything but evil?


208 posted on 11/02/2015 9:05:33 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: diamond6

And if you have any more leftists posing in GOPEE drag like Romney up your sleeve, we can guarantee that you will never know about them either. Jeb Bush is considerably more (but not enough) conservative than Monster Romney but all of Wall Street’s $$$$$ and all of K Street’s $$$$$$ apparently cannot make the sow’s ear that is Jebbie even competitive this time. Even Romney was able to figure out what an ass kicking he was in for if he dared to enter the 2016 race. Don’t you think that makes obvious that the conservative base has finally awoken to what these prostitutes are up to? Whatever your answer, feel free to back it with facts, evidence and logic.


209 posted on 11/02/2015 9:05:35 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: diamond6

And yet: you would vote FOR Willard and therefore own all that he is. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.


210 posted on 11/02/2015 9:09:21 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Karl Spooner

Every “Republican” who actually voted FOR Obozo OR Willard, supported Obamacare. As they say at the race track. Obozocare is by Romney out of Obozo. If you voted for either of them, you voted for Obozocare. Don’t like it? Toooooo bad. Truth is truth.


211 posted on 11/02/2015 9:13:57 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: doug from upland

Laugh all the way to the next GOPEE POTUS defeat and say hello to the Arkansas Medusa as POTUS. With enemies like you and Romney, she needs no friends. Electing any old POS, however leftist, however barbarian but bearing the GOPEE label ought not to be the ambition of any conservative.


212 posted on 11/02/2015 9:17:31 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk; doug from upland

Oh and like Hillary he lies. The source of his humor was also posted and again, MSNBC style, out of context on another thread where he disapproved of my comments.

Doug is a liberal. Perhaps once he was not. But his actions clearly show him to be one now.


213 posted on 11/02/2015 9:21:22 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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To: Karl Spooner
Obozocare did not NEED GOPEE votes. Back then, the Demonrats had majorities in BOTH houses. If the Republicans had controlled both, McConnell in the Senate and Bonehead in the House would have carried on the perpetual GOPEE kabuki dance by giving the demonrats however many votes they needed to pass each house. Whatever Bozo wants, Bozo gets and little man Obozo wants your freedom, your money, control over your healthcare, your children and grandchildren's minds and futures and Mitch McConnell and the House GOPEE "leaders" will sell their souls to get the donor class stroked.

No votes from Republicans also serves Demonrats interests by justifying (in their warped imagination) claims that the GOPEE wants to run grandma off the cliff, see to it that children die for lack of medical care. If at all possible, the GOPEE whores have to vote against to keep up the false front that they are different from the Demonrats.

214 posted on 11/02/2015 9:25:04 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Yardstick; Norm Lenhart
Yardstick:

Norm is correct which gives him the advantage. Will you be shutting up with YOUR leftist enabling campaign on a CONSERVATIVE website? I did not think so.

215 posted on 11/02/2015 9:27:33 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: kingu
Mandatory maternity coverage for everyone! No longer permitted to price insurance based upon gender!

The coverage mandates have very little to do with it...1.5 to 2%.

However, the guaranteed "pre-ex" faggotcare blows premiums sky-high. Insurance is for otherwise healthy individuals and families who might get sick, or have a medical emergency.

Now the carriers are forced to throw thousands of guaranteed $100,000 a year AIDS claimants into that otherwise healthy pools.

Claims are 80% of premium...what do you think is going to happen to your monthly bill?

216 posted on 11/02/2015 9:32:49 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

If the lavender queens want medical coverage, AIDS coverage should be excluded and they might want to be a bit more conventional on what goes where. Why should decent Americans be required to subsidize their perverted behavior or as to other matters the killing of little babies in utero or sit idly by while perversion posing as “marriage” becomes subsidized by the tax code and therefore by taxpayers?


217 posted on 11/02/2015 9:42:24 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

I won’t return the “you are better than this.” Apparently you are not better. Some of you are still spewing crap about my political views. I did not want Romney, but after the nomination, the next president to take the oath in Jan 2013 would be Obama or Romney. It may well be that some of you would have voted for Stalin in a Stalin v Romney match. The Muslim in the White House is systematically dismantling this nation at home and abroad. And we all knew what he was going to do. With what you have seen Obama do, if you think Romney would have been equally as bad, you are a fool. I won’t give you any phony platitudes of respect. The real conservatives in the GOP would have fought the president from their own party. I would have fought him at every turn. We have no ability to deal with Obama because he does not respect the Constitution and he controls the Justice Department. He is responsible for losing everything that had been on in the Middle East.


218 posted on 11/02/2015 9:48:34 PM PST by doug from upland (The ultimate in foolishness -- "'Romney is just as bad as Obama" WTF?)
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To: BlackElk
Why should decent Americans be required to subsidize their perverted behavior or as to other matters the killing of little babies in utero or sit idly by while perversion posing as "marriage" becomes subsidized by the tax code and therefore by taxpayers?

Why?

Because that is the RAT agenda, which is anti-everything American.

219 posted on 11/02/2015 9:57:48 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: doug from upland; BlackElk

We have no ability to deal with Obama because some very vocal people decided the best way to hold his feet to the fire was by sending leftists to bolster the GOP ranks.

As has been pointed out to by both myself and reality, the GOP is now fully leftist and someone advocated they be there. It was not me. It was the people that screamed NO MATTER WHAT.

People like me Doug, pushed for principled conservatives. You fought people like me and demanded winning at any cost. Well you won. And since your victory the GOP has handed Obama every single issue you claim to oppose.

So whose fault is that Doug? Mine?

Is it MY fault that YOU pushed and screamed for leftists that could WIN over principled conservatives Doug?

No. that’s all on your neck baby. You won no matter what and now you are upset that every single thing evil purists like me told you would happen, did.

Now you are reduced to quoting people out of context and stomping your feet. I dont GAF. YOU Doug and those like you CONTINUE to demand more of what got us into this freaking mess. YOU.

No one misrepresented your politics Doug. you chose them freely. Own them.


220 posted on 11/02/2015 10:20:23 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Embrace Existential Cage Theory. Solutions start at home.)
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