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To: mkjessup; Finny

She was reaching out to you with her comment, admitting that she used to think exactly the same way.

That’s an olive branch, man.

Pretty mean, disproportionate response on your part, IMO.


166 posted on 10/31/2015 12:18:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Finny; BlackElk; EternalVigilance; Thibodeaux; Norm Lenhart
Post #153

For so many decades I believed in voting "against," the same as our FRiend MKJessup and so many others still believe. Thinking that a goal can be accomplished by relying on an imaginary resource, is folly; the goal will remain elusive every time. It's like planning with wisdom and precision a nice trip, itinerary, budgeting and saving up for plane tickets and hotels, etc. -- and counting on the Tooth Fairy to act as your travel agent. No matter how good the plan, the trip will never materialize because from the git-go, you've lost it -- there's no such thing as the Tooth Fairy, and there's no such thing as voting "against."

There is the first installment, sounds pretty judgmental to me.

Post #151

My 20/20 hindsight, which was also adopted by enough fellow conservatives in 2012, served our nation and all "conservatives" who voted for Romney very well -- the bastard lost, and you, MKJ, are off the hook for all the garbage statism and amoral evil he would done in your name with your endorsement.

More judgment, assuming that because one voted AGAINST Obama (*by voting for the Republican ticket headed by Romney) that one was endorsing all of the policies of Romney. Quite to the contrary, a voter in 2012 who cast their vote for the Republican ticket was effectively voting AGAINST the policies of the Obamunist regime, and while they might not have agreed with each and every position that Romney and the GOP platform stood for, they made a reasoned judgment of their own, that those policies could not be much worse than what had already been done over the previous four years.

Now if you want to talk about 'endorsements', in your post #156, you endorsed Blackelk's post #117 in which he said:

What can NEVER be justified is any person calling himself or herself an American, a patriot, much less a conservative, and voting for Romney OR Obozo.

Sounds like Blackelk is saying that I (and many other FReepers, including our Founder) are not Americans, not patriots, not conservatives if we voted AGAINST Obama by voting the GOP ticket in 2012.

And, it can never be repeated often enough, as Finny often posts, we have only the option of voting FOR a candidate. There is no mechanism for voting AGAINST one.

Again that faulty logic trap. If you cast your vote for ONE candidate and their party, you are effectively voting AGAINST the candidate of the OTHER party.

If and when this nation is destroyed it will be due to those who lack the courage or the clarity to vote the traditional morality of this country.

One more judgment. It is inferred that FReepers such as I (and others) lack 'courage' or 'traditional morality'.

Moving right along now, in your post #88 you took FReeper 'Thibodeaux' to task:

...you are so desperate to keep your own self-esteem intact, that you carry on with this charade and get angry at folks who used to be where you still are, but who have figured out that the deal being offered by left-leaning politicians that now dominate both major parties is almost literally "Heads I win, tails you lose."

...You went ahead and allowed yourself to be manipulated into voting for crap that you didn't want in the first place. OR DIDNT YOU? Norm Lenhart is becoming more and more convincing in his argument that indeed, people like you WANTED what Romney has to offer. You WANT the political equivalent of crap like Coca-Cola and actually think it's "better" than Pepsi, metaphorically speaking.
Wake the hell up.




Now in the interest of brevity, since you apparently support the general timbre of what Blackelk has had to say in this thread, I would urge your reviewing his posts at #119 and #120 and weighing in as to whether you endorse those comments as well?

Eternal Vigilance stated that my response to you was "mean" which strikes me as highly ironic when one considers the mean spirited crap that was posted in this thread directed at other FReepers long before I began commenting here, Blackelk leading the charge, and you (Finny) eager to join in with the "Amens!" and the "me toos".

There you go, copied and pasted as requested.
167 posted on 10/31/2015 12:49:34 PM PDT by mkjessup ("Politics Ain't Beanbag - Finley Peter Dunne")
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