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To: ROCKLOBSTER

As long as government says they will pay X number of dollars for Y procedure or medicine or care of some kind, then all hospitals, doctors and pharmacies will charge X for it.

So, say a standard office visit (Y) is $75 (X). Medicare, Medicaid will pay up to $75 for an office visit, so now each and every doctor charges that much for an office visit. When/if government raises that price, then so will the doctors.

And I don’t blame them. They’d be fools not to.

But the underlying fact is, doctors, hospitals and pharmacies do not set medical care prices...

The government does.

Until someone figures a way out of this, and lets a free market determine price, we’re stuck with high medical costs dictated by government.

So Carson’s vouchers or HSA, or Medicaid/Medicare, all equal high government induced costs.


50 posted on 10/25/2015 6:27:33 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Alas Babylon!
So, say a standard office visit (Y) is $75 (X). Medicare, Medicaid will pay up to $75 for an office visit, so now each and every doctor charges that much for an office visit. When/if government raises that price, then so will the doctors.

One problem with your scenario is that if the standard office visit costs $75, insurance companies will negotiate a cost of $50 and Medicare will mandate a payment of $35. So the free market is already setting the price for two of them: the insurance companies, because doctors and insurance companies are free to negotiate a price agreeable to both, and for everyone else, since people are free to pick a doctor that charges the price that they are willing to pay.

57 posted on 10/25/2015 6:36:33 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Alas Babylon!
As long as the benefits of health care are individualized but the costs are socialized, there will not be an upper boundary on health care spending! (Obamacare made this even worse.)


58 posted on 10/25/2015 6:36:50 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve." - Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859))
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To: Alas Babylon!
Until someone figures a way out of this, and lets a free market determine price, we’re stuck with high medical costs dictated by government. So Carson’s vouchers or HSA, or Medicaid/Medicare, all equal high government in

WRONG!

This is a free market reform, using private insurance, paying market rates to the providers, all chosen by the insured (competition). In his proposal, the government pays premiums....not claims.

59 posted on 10/25/2015 6:39:53 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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