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To: Longbow1969

I just guessed that you would be trying to push the meme that “something” had to be pushing up Carson’s numbers in evangelical Iowa... and you are trying to say it was Trump’s comments about 911?

LOL Nice try.

Carson faked his Facebook numbers right before the last debate. Yuge fake out.

Iowans have to be freaked out about Carson’s pro abortion positions and Red State Iowans don’t take too kindly to Seventh Day Adventists, either.

Naw. This is GOPe trickery. Like I said, I’ll believe these numbers about Carson when Carson explains how his Facebook “likes’ surged so fast before the last debate.

Or let’s remember how Rove faked Mitt’s win in Iowa in ‘12.


72 posted on 10/23/2015 6:09:54 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Sontagged
"Iowans have to be freaked out about Carson’s pro abortion positions and Red State Iowans don’t take too kindly to Seventh Day Adventists, either."

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Reflecting on those important points a bit, perhaps the following information sheds some light on those negative views by many voters.


One of Dr. Ben Carson's "Seventh-day Adventist" denomination's founders was Ellen G. White, who the denomination follows religiously, believing was a special prophetess of God who received many visions from God over her long lifetime, and she wrote many books (although there is some question as to whether some of her writings may actually involve plagiarism).


Ellen G. White
One Of The Main Founders -
Seventh-day Adventist Denomination


The Seventh-day Adventist denomination advocates vegetarianism, and Dr. Carson is himself a vegetarian.   The Seventh-day Adventists got that vegetarian teaching from their prophetess, as documented right here.


There has been a lot of written response to Dr. Carson's candidacy, and two interesting examples from that response which give a small flavor of it are linked here - one by another Seventh-day Adventist like Dr. Carson, and one by a former Seventh-day Adventist:


A famous Seventh-day Adventist hymn (almost seeming to support Trump       ) is subtitled "Lift Up The Trumpet".

Link For Seventh-day Adventist Hymn -
"Lift Up The Trumpet"


Lift Up The Trumpet
and loud let it ring
Jesus is coming again!
Cheer up ye pilgrims
be joyful and sing
Jesus is coming again!
Coming again,
coming again,
Jesus is coming again!


Dr. Carson has not made it entirely clear whether his personal views completely or just partially contradict Seventh-day Adventist teachings, which (for example) demand that their young men and women be pacifistic conscientious objectors (non-combatant medics in their military service, if required by conscription), and that they keep a strict separation between "church and state", and essentially avoid politics (other than voting).   He doggedly presses on with his long-shot quest for the presidency.



Dr. Ben Carson

Seventh-day Adventist Candidate For
President of the United States of America

194 posted on 10/23/2015 10:05:01 AM PDT by Heart-Rest ( "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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