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To: 2banana

Russia has supplied Syria with air superiority, fighter bombers, and ground support jets. The MiG-31s the SUs are equivalent or perhaps superior to anything the US possesses and have supplied Israel with - including Israeli upgrades. Nothing the Israelis can do to its existing AF will make fundamental changes in performance characteristics; they can only alter various load-outs and software - neither of which will change any stealth characteristics, speed, turning, weight, or thrust among many others.

Syria among others, as time goes by, could and will challenge the IAF: Iran is buying large numbers of advances planes from both Russia and China. Others are buying fourth gen planes from Europe. Read the article.

Russia and Israel have a temporary military working agreement, not a friendship. Russia intends to install multiple S300 systems in Syria, effectively shutting down all secret cross-boarder ops by the IAF - even in Israel.

No planes get within 30 miles of a F-35? Perhaps, but only if the F-35s have F-22s covering them. Most Russian BVR missile ranges are in the 100s of kilometers.

The F-35 “stealth” is not anywhere as good as one might think. And is largely a useless boondoggle. Its BVR missiles have to be strapped on externally as they do not fit internally, thus eliminating what little stealth the F-35 committee-designed plane possesses.


30 posted on 10/18/2015 3:59:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

The Mig-31 was/is primarily meant for anti-bomber/cruise missile missions. It’s not really meant for the fighter role. It’s long-range radar/missile capability is pointless in the face of the presence of AWACS and jamming that Israel will have.

While one for one, a Rafale and Eurofighter may be more agile than a Teen-series fighter, a lot of variables will cloud the picture.

The F-35’s BVR missiles (both the AMRAAM and Meteor) can be carried internally. Even a small load-out of AMRAAMs carried in stealth configuration make a huge difference against a fully exposed Mig or SU-30 variant.


38 posted on 10/19/2015 5:49:36 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: PIF

“The MiG-31s the SUs are equivalent or perhaps superior to anything the US possesses and have supplied Israel with - including Israeli upgrades.”

Mig-31’s are an old platform based on the Mig-25 Foxbat.


40 posted on 10/19/2015 5:54:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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