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To: Kaslin

I think there is something to this, and I would like trucons or socons to respond.

They are stealing our country, and they want to ruin what is best in America. I believe it. I get it.

The mainstream Republicans are scum. I get it.

But...

The trucon/socon movement is now strong enough to defeat any Republican. They have grown in power to the point that they can block candidates for leadership positions in the House.

However - they are not yet strong enough to elect 218 Membersof Congress on their own. A lot of trucons/socons are acting as if, once they can block a GOPe candidate that the very large GOPe contingent or voter block will have no choice but to support the trucon/socon, but this is not the case.

The GOPe fear of and hatred for the trucon/socons is growing. Many if not most GOPe Members and voters are MUCH closer to the median Democrat than they are to any trucon/socon.

As the rebellion grows, it’s important to assess what it can and cannot achieve. Without a very substantial change in the composition of the House, they cannot (IMO) elect a Speaker and set an agenda.

In fact, it’s more likely (IMO) that the result will be a liberal Republican caucus of 35-60 Members who will vote with the Democrats to elect a Speaker and keep the free sh*t flowing.

Comments?


16 posted on 10/10/2015 9:59:24 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: Jim Noble
See my post 19.

What is sad is that McClintock was an uncompromising member of the California legislature, blocking budgets and refusing to give in, using a minority status to the fullest extent possible. He has clearly been seduced by Washington. I never thought it could happen to him. He may be the biggest disappointment there. Imagine if Reagan had gone to DC, and governed as Bush. That's what it's like.

25 posted on 10/10/2015 10:11:43 AM PDT by Defiant (I wouldn't have to mansplain if it weren't for all those wymidiots.)
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To: Jim Noble

It’s not about personalities but principles. Are they willing to commit to a program? If not, that’s an election issue...


45 posted on 10/10/2015 8:29:20 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: Jim Noble

I think this is an important point, and I would sure like to hear more commentary.

Let’s pretend a different fact pattern...ie, that trucons had the majority of the GOP caucus, and the 30 mods or so were “holding the majority hostage”....we would all be screaming (rightly) to kick them out.

And maybe that is ok. Maybe we not need be consistent in that regard, but about the article above and your post, I can say that it seems to me to raise good points that need reflection.

McClintock is a serious conservative. It’s not like he’s a squish. So I think we should think through this, and I hope a good, rational and persuasive discussion follows.


50 posted on 10/11/2015 7:04:27 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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