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China Joining Russia In Syria Brings Risks Of World War
IBD ^ | 10/10/2015

Posted on 10/10/2015 6:23:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

American Decline: Chinese forces head to Syria to join with Russia in filling Obama's power vacuum and purportedly fight the Islamic State. A false move involving NATO member Turkey could mean world war.

Russian and Chinese military sources now confirm that Chinese warships are en route to the Middle East to get in on some of the action of humiliating the U.S. In just a week and a half, Moscow has upended the dynamics of power in the Mideast by taking on the role that President Obama relinquished: acting like a superpower in a regional conflict that has implications extending far beyond the region.

Russian ruler Vladimir Putin launched airstrikes against rebels opposing the terrorist Assad regime in Syria, first with a modest force to gauge the U.S. response and perhaps pull out if threatened. Seeing no threat, Putin has been intensifying Russian operations, even sending in Spetsnaz special forces troops.

China's entry means two major powers are stepping in to do what the U.S. was unwilling to do against IS. It's a lesson in how fast the tables can turn when America displays weakness — losing wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and proving to be ineffective against IS despite fighting it for a year and three months now.

Our commander-in-chief even admits that he has no strategy against the monstrous caliphate that his very own policies of weakness brought into being.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alexistsipras; astroturf; belarus; china; coldwar2; communism; europeanunion; france; germany; greece; kazakhstan; nato; putinsbuttboys; russia; russianstooges; sovietunion; syria; syriza; turkey; uk; unitedkingdom; vladtheimploder; worldwar; worldwariii; worldwarthree; wwiii
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To: PIF

and now we laugh at IBD for falling for it too? I love how the article says Russian and Chinese officials “confirm it” but then quote no one and link to nothing.

Is it possible? Sure. But please give me a reliable link to confirm rather than just saying it was confirmed.


21 posted on 10/10/2015 7:03:44 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: elhombrelibre

But the real question is: sovereign Syria asked Russia (and next maybe China) to be in its country, so how is this situation a threat to the security of the United States?


22 posted on 10/10/2015 7:04:38 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: ClearCase_guy

In WWII, we designed new weapons and manufactured them quickly and in quantity. WWII was a pretty squick war for us and we accomplished a lot in a short amount of time. Today, that just won’t happen. A new ship can take 20 years from idea to commissioning. A new plane can take 15 years. And when we have a new plane (ex. F-22) we build 150 of ‘em.

We are not well positioned to fight either Russia or China — let alone both. And we do not have time to get ready. They know that.

No one is afraid of us. Why would they be?


A couple of things....war is fought very differently today with technology playing a major part. Yes, in WWII we were an industrial might and produced war materiel by the thousands. However, it wasn’t uncommon to lose hundreds of planes, as an example, during the course of a battle. Today, the planes, ships, subs, etc have much different capability and can project power much stronger and differently. Our training and technology is second to none. Militarily we will prevail. The small “armada” China may be sending can hardly be called a navy. They cannot, nor can Russia, project power to any degree for any period of time far from their home base. The problem is we have is the strong leadership that is required to face this threat down. We are severely lacking and I do not have the confidence that if we were to get into a shooting war right now that our stupid policy would barely allow our soldiers to have ammunition. Perhaps it’s better to sit this one out and let China and Russia have their fun, feel their oats and, , perhaps, get kicked in the nuts by ISIS and their ilk.

God willing a new President will make the commitment that is necessary to protect America, ensure a strong military and use it for what it is designed for....a killing machine to protect the country and its interests, not be a social engineering experiment.


23 posted on 10/10/2015 7:06:28 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: MarMema
Was it not listed somewhere on the giveaway cell phones?

Once you get beyond the "white guilt" appeal, vote for me I will get you someone else's money is the biggest vote getter for the Socialists. (dems).
Foreign policy, our Constitution, sovereignty,etc. will take a back seat to the socialist voters desire for the Govt. to redistribute the money. -Tom

24 posted on 10/10/2015 7:07:29 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: SeekAndFind

China Declares All-out War On Islam

http://shoebat.com/2015/10/08/china-declares-all-out-war-on-islam-so-how-could-china-be-the-200000000-man-army-declaring-war-on-the-jews/

China is declaring an all out war on Islam as a preventative measure to minimize terror attacks. Ramadan is banned, Hijab banned, Muslim prayer banned in Chinese government buildings, $4,880 fines on Internet users who disseminate Islamist ideology, Muslim beards banned on public transportation and the government will pay $8000 for anyone who reports on Muslims growing beards. All that is not enough. Today all Halal restaurants must serve cigarets and alcohol. China hates the Islamists so much that they joined Russia in its war against the Islamists in Syria and there is much talk about the Chinese coming to Iraq. Russia and China’s emergence in the Middle East (especially Iraq) has many asking: is China coming soon with its 200,000,000 man army to Iraq to dry up the Euphrates? And is Russia’s Magog hailing for the massive battles leading up to Armageddon? I mean Iraq … this is where the Euphrates is … and here comes the Chinese … and the Russians … What in the world is going on?...


25 posted on 10/10/2015 7:07:46 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: SeekAndFind

We don’t...and isn’t that sad?

Remember how America rallied around Desert Storm? A lot of the people went on to serve after 9/11, and we lost so many of our boys, fathers, brothers, uncles....

And yes, if we go to war again, it’s because of the Kenyan’s ego to over take Syria...he doesn’t even know how to govern his own checkbook, let alone a nation or a world...should never have been elected....


26 posted on 10/10/2015 7:08:01 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: elhombrelibre
"This Obama fiasco should please the Putinistas who put their hatred of Obama above their love of the US, and who love Putin more than the USA."

Wow, an angry opinion on FR.

The problem is more complex. See it appears that as sure as Hillary is guilty of espionage of a sort, Obama doesn't have the interest of the United States in mind, of a sort.

Now consider the notion of "This Obama fiasco". Well, it's not a fiasco in the sense of ineptness as the root cause, but rather by design.

Now add the two together -- the fact that blatant un-american activity and criminal malfeasance is happening and certain elements in the GOP are keeping the others from doing anything about it. That's why some of us are happy Russia has stepped in to contain the middle east problem -- you know, that ball we've been carrying for 50 or so years and culminated with the Twin Towers terrorism? Just remember Israel and bless her and wish her luck and cosmic justice to her enemies.

27 posted on 10/10/2015 7:08:32 AM PDT by Fhios
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To: ripnbang

RE: In WWII, we designed new weapons and manufactured them quickly and in quantity.

How strong were labor laws and labor unions then?


28 posted on 10/10/2015 7:10:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

We should provide support for Russia in cleaning out ISIS... My guess is Russia’s a swing in the upcoming war with Iran...


29 posted on 10/10/2015 7:10:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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To: SatinDoll

RE: Ramadan is banned, Hijab banned, Muslim prayer banned in Chinese government building

Funny how a lot of buildings in China are decorated with Christmas ornaments when I was there during Christmas season a few years ago. Heck even Christmas songs were being played on the shops I went to.

Yes, this is a secular country with a Communist party leadership but still ...


30 posted on 10/10/2015 7:12:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: elhombrelibre
This Obama fiasco should please the Putinistas who put their hatred of Obama above their love of the US, and who love Putin more than the USA.

Syria isn't Ukraine.

31 posted on 10/10/2015 7:25:28 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: HarleyLady27

They’ll never blame Obama, if WWIII begins, they’ll say it’s GWB fault.

Remember Obama supporters aren’t grown-up’s, therefore they cannot take responsibility, they must blame someone else.

The Left here in Britain are still blaming Margaret Thatcher for things.


32 posted on 10/10/2015 7:30:14 AM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: SeekAndFind
Our commander-in-chief .... has no strategy against the monstrous caliphate that his very own policies of weakness brought into being.

Hussein Obama, America's first Muslim President, has many goals. The terrorists bought America's biggest traitor a ticket to the White House. By disrupting the US government, hurting the economy, keeping America as dependent on Muslim terrorist supplied oil as he can, Hussein has been wildly successful in hurting America from the inside.

But if anybody is stupid enough to think that Hussein Obama is going to do anything to stop the Muslim terrorists that he worked so hard to create, then Americans are even bigger fools than even the Muslims think they are.

When in doubt about Hussein Obama's motives, ask yourself the question: What would a Muslim terrorist do if he were President? The answer is exactly what Hussein Obama is doing.

33 posted on 10/10/2015 8:01:45 AM PDT by politicianslie (What would a terrorist do if he were made POTUS? ANS: Exactly what Hussein Obama is doing!)
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To: SatinDoll
What in the world is going on?...

America's first Muslim President's job is to destroy the west. By putting the super powers against each other and doing all he can to set up the Muslim terrorists in positions of power, the Muslims think they can rule the world AFTER the western powers destroy each other.

If you survive WW III, you can either bow to Mecca or be killed. It's what Hussein Obama is working for.

34 posted on 10/10/2015 8:11:00 AM PDT by politicianslie (What would a terrorist do if he were made POTUS? ANS: Exactly what Hussein Obama is doing!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Having been raised in a church that preached on Revelations and the OT prophets, I must confess it went in one ear and out the other. Of late, I am reconsidering the whole matter.


35 posted on 10/10/2015 8:11:04 AM PDT by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: SeekAndFind

As long as this doesn’t bother the K Street crowd, the Bernie Sanders bozos, or threaten Planned Parenthood funding nothing will happen. It will just be another day in the ‘hood with America getting pushed around by the usual bullies.


36 posted on 10/10/2015 8:16:10 AM PDT by Gritty (The question is not will Muslim migrants kill Americans but how many will they kill?-D.Greenfield)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not that I have heard - nothing official - just many here hate/despise Debka for reasons that seem to make no sense whatsoever.

If they see the story on some mainstream news outlet, then it is official - otherwise, it is necessary to provide the haters with copious links - most of which they will still dispute.


37 posted on 10/10/2015 8:29:33 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: icwhatudo

Just wait a few days, and I’m sure something credible will pop up to your liking.


38 posted on 10/10/2015 8:31:22 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: politicianslie

You didn’t read my post. Too bad.


39 posted on 10/10/2015 10:16:52 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: SeekAndFind
China Joining Russia In Syria Brings Risks Of World War

Mouthy little sh*t-headed boy needs his ears boxed all the way out of the White House.

This is what happens when you elect a lazy, stupid ignorant little boy just because his "blackness" makes liberals have orgasms.

What a mess this stupid little child has created.

40 posted on 10/10/2015 11:29:02 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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