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To: RitaOK; Finny; editor-surveyor

I will vote for Cruz if he’s the nominee.

But I see him as another cartel member. He is on the fringes, but still a member nonetheless, IMO.

I also see him as the latest “rising star” championed by the Tea Party. Recall the rest of the rising stars who so bitterly disappointed us by joining, one after another, the cartel.

ALL of the candidates have a few bones rattling around in their closets, including Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.

I plan to vote for Trump because he is not a politician.

He might be a crushing disappointment as well.

He’s got to be better than anything the dems put up though.

I don’t believe he will destroy the country.

There were some articles hinting around about Trump’s lack of experience in the political arena that subtly compared him to Obama.

That is not a fair comparison.

Trump is a builder. He’s been one all his life.

Obama has always been a destroyer.

Trump’s got my hopes up.

On my part, maybe it’s childish or naive.

But in the end, it’s my vote.

None of you are going to change my mind.


389 posted on 10/09/2015 12:37:34 PM PDT by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S. Feel the Trump-mentum!(insert ireallysupportCruzdisclaimerhere/))
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To: Califreak

Good for you. Charge the hill and don’t let the crap bother you.

My own premise is this, that should the media/Establishment/KStreet/Coc/Wall Street actually succeed in taking Trump down, then it’s a certainty no one else will stand, who is even marginally conservative. Except for the GOPE candidate who will get to run up the middle to the nomination. Again.

If Trump were felled, most of his conservative support will move directly to Cruz, but accepting the fact that Cruz will never win the nomination.


392 posted on 10/09/2015 12:48:57 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Califreak; RitaOK; Finny

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>> “But I see him as another cartel member. He is on the fringes, but still a member nonetheless, IMO.” <<

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If you really stand by that assertion, you’re a loon!

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BTW, Trump is not nor ever has been a “Builder.”

He’s a real estate shyster that often hires real builders, and several times has left them hanging high and dry on payday.

I think we all know that you’re committed to throwing your vote away, so no effort will be forthcoming to crack that ossified gray gunk.
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398 posted on 10/09/2015 1:11:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Califreak; EternalVigilance; All
ALL of the candidates have a few bones rattling around in their closets, including Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. I plan to vote for Trump because he is not a politician. He might be a crushing disappointment as well.

I sure admire your level tone, Califreak. :^)

"A few bones" is an understatement of closet contents for Trump, from a wife who posed for a nudie mag to enthusiastic support for Barak Obama only 8 years ago. So the idea that he "might" prove a "crushing disappointment as well," is another vast understatement. Not might, probably.

The most striking of your reasons:

I plan to vote for Trump because he is not a politician.

It is also a primary reason to reject him. Trump has zero, zip political compass. That's why he could so easily and convincingly be a happy supporter of Barak Obama, for Pete's sake, only eight years ago, yet be a "conservative" in so many ardently hopeful and romantic American patriots' eyes today. He's a celebrity personality; people are voting for the man in the hopes he'll live up to their political goals, in spite of Trump's clear lack of political compass.

My vote for Cruz isn't for the man, it's for a political philosophy. Ted Cruz adheres to a political compass; I'm voting for Cruz to hold to that course when I vote for him or other principled conservatives like one pinged to this post. There's a big difference between voting for a man and voting for a principle.

I know where Cruz stands on most issues just because I know his political compass.

Trump's stand on any issue is fleeting because he lacks a political compass, although is driven by a sincere showman's enthusiasm. God forbid, maybe a bit like the Music Man. Trump goes by the "think" system.

Back in 1999, when Trump openly advocated for universal health care, Cruz rejected the concept as soundly then as he does now, and the same with the 2nd Amendment. Trump has haltingly migrated on both issues ... and would continue migrating after he got in office, probably leftward as has been his lifelong tilt, being an executive who cultivates profitable organization (translation: people, government). What Trump stands for in government, is a total crap shoot in terms of voting for him.

Cruz will hold the course as he always has because he's a politician with a very good hold on the best political compass. I'll vote for that.

I'll decline risking accidental support of more and bigger government, which is probably what Trump would ultimately bring.

He’s got to be better than anything the dems put up though.

Ten years ago, I'd have agreed. Today I heed my tagline because it's the truth. Now, I only vote for what I want to win. Evidence as opposed to words indicate that Trump is more than risky toward bigger government, retaining a well-meaning government mindset that represents what I want to lose.

Like I said, now I only vote for what I want to win. I wish everyone would do that -- we'd be better off.

430 posted on 10/10/2015 9:03:16 AM PDT by Finny (Voting "aganist" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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