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To: SeekAndFind
What a great discussion. I have a management role with a large corporation and a lot of what I read below I have witnessed.

With regard to the Human Resources department, one must realize that their overarching purpose is to keep the company and its management out of the courtroom. So while a lot of the policies put out by HR regarding sexual harassment may seem ridiculous and silly, keep their main purpose in mind.

I am extremely careful when dealing with my female subordinates and counterparts. It is true that they have the upper hand in the workplace and that each and every one of them have the ability to destroy the career of any man with just one false allegation. I have had a couple of allegations made against me during my career but fortunately they have been minor and were unsubstantiated.

In one case, a woman employee complained to HR that I was "feeling myself" as I was speaking to her. I had her in my office and was going over her performance review. She actually got a decent review but evidently she took issue with some of the areas I told her she needed to improve in. What saved me was that she lodged the same complaint against another male manager so this was dismissed as unsubstantiated and the female employee left the company a few months later. Thinking back to the incident, I might have had my hands in my lap but certainly I was not "feeling myself!". Ever since then, I have always insisted on having a male colleague in the room with me whenever meeting with a female employee - unless it is a longtime female associate that I know I can trust - and I keep my hands on my desk. You just need to be extra careful around women in the workplace.

The other time was when I told a joke at a department meeting. I forget the substance of the joke but it had to do with one of the workers coming back from his honeymoon and I made a reference about "not getting to do much sightseeing", implying of course that he and his bride probably spent most of their time in their room. The male employee took no offense but one of the female employees, who likely didn't even know the male employee very well, was offended enough to lodge a formal complain.

OK, so that was probably too risque for mixed company. I assumed that we were all adults and could laugh a little at the man coming back from his honeymoon. Got a slap on the hand for that. Ever since, I have kept my business meetings as businesslike as possible when women employees are in attendance.

So do I walk on eggshells in the workplace when women are around? Absolutely. However, there are some women I have worked with for years and I absolutely trust them to not file false or frivolous complaints against me. It may be my undoing but I do give women employees an opportunity to eventually win my trust and I do loosen up a little when I'm around them.

Lastly, during my entire 30 year career, I've had dozens of women employees touch me or even overtly make moves on me. It might be touching my arm when talking to me or running their hand across my back as they pass behind me. None of that ever bothered me one bit but I know that I would risk my career if I ever did that with a female employee. Other women employees, knowing that I am married, have asked to have a drink with me after work or even one one occasion, asked me to go away with them on a weekend trip. I was always gracious about it and never made them feel bad for asking. But, I know that if the situation was reversed, it would likely be a different story.

The rules are definitely different for men than they are for women in the workplace. Good or bad, the women have the upper hand and with one well placed accusation, they have the ability to destroy a career. Men need to be cautious about letting down their guard.

119 posted on 10/05/2015 6:42:16 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (A businessman gets things donee with own money. A politician takes money and gets nothing done.)
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To: SamAdams76

PC, like it’s progressive source, is base hypocrisy. All to bash white men, the ‘power’ they must ‘struggle against’. It is also cognitively dissonant; it damages what helps — white men provide jobs and security.

In the end, imo, leftists/proggies are mental adolescents trying to kick their fathers for not being allowed to run wild.


134 posted on 10/06/2015 5:44:01 AM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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