Very educational. Always love reading specific historical quotes. Thanks for those. But your point is entirely irrelevant. Those orders were issued in 1860. It wasn't until 1861 that the Confederacy was created. Once it was, that was no longer Federal territory. Union troops abandoned every other fort and post in the South in 1861. Only Ft Sumter remained garrisoned. Only Ft Sumter's soldiers refused the repeated requests to leave this now-foreign territory... while located hundreds of miles from the rest of the Union. The Confederacy gave them MONTHS to leave. They refused. When you take new territory, and armed troops belonging to the former owners refuse to leave, even at threat of violence, then you eventually have to back up that threat.
But nice try at spin there.
Absolutely, categorically untrue.
“Very educational. Always love reading specific historical quotes. Thanks for those. But your point is entirely irrelevant. Those orders were issued in 1860. It wasn’t until 1861 that the Confederacy was created.”
South Carolina threatened to secede before the Presidential election occurred on 6 November 1860. South Carolina commenced hostilities with the United States Government when it arrested an officer of the United States performing his duties in transferring supplies from the Federal Charleston Arsenal to the Federal Fort Moultrie on 7 November 1860 and raised its flag over the U.S. Government artillery batteries in Charleston on 9 November 1860. It was after South Carolina commenced hostilities on 7 and 9 November 1860 when Major Anderson, USA, was ordered to take command of the U.S. Army installation in the areas of Charleston Harbor on 15 November 1860. South Carolina held an unlawful secession convention on 17 December 1860, which voted to secede on 20 December 1860, and proclaimed the unlawful secession to be in effect on 24 December 1860, all of which occurred before the year of 1861.
“Once it was, that was no longer Federal territory. Union troops abandoned every other fort and post in the South in 1861. Only Ft Sumter remained garrisoned.”
Those are false statements and lies. The U.S. Government facilities in Charleston were the properties of the U.S. Government. The U.S. Government held the title deed in fee simple granted by the State of South Carolina for the site of Fort Sumter. The State of South Carolina and its Convention formally acknowledged the Federal claims to the property rights for the forts, arsenals, and other properties; and they authorized the appointment of commissioners to treat with the U.S. Government for a financial settlement of claims arising from their seizure and expropriation by South Carolina. The U.S. Government refused to treat with the commissioners from South Carolina due to their being the unlawful agents of an unlawful and armed insurrection against the Constitution and the U.S. Government having no lawful authority for their actions.
Your comment, “Union troops abandoned every other fort and post in the South in 1861.” is another lie. They were not “Union troops,” because they were the forces of the U.S. Army and the U.S. Navy, and their forts and posts were seized by force and/or threat of force in most instances, rather than being simply abandoned. In Texas, The commander of the Department of Texas was a secret secessionist conspirator who traitorously used his command to order the surrender the one-fourth of the U.S. Army located in Texas and their posts, before he took a commission as a general in the Provisional Army of the Confederate States. Furthermore, Fort Pickens, Fort Zachary Taylor, and Fort Jefferson were located in the State of Florida, and they were not surrendered to Confederate forces when attacked.
“Only Ft Sumter’s soldiers refused the repeated requests to leave this now-foreign territory....”
That is another lie. Fort Pickens, Fort Zachary Taylor, and Fort Jefferson were located in the State of Florida, and they were not surrendered to Confederate forces when attacked.
“The Confederacy gave them MONTHS to leave. They refused.”
The U.S. Government was obligated by the Constitution to suppress the unlawful insurrection and restore the Republican form of government usurped by the insurrectionists.
“When you take new territory, and armed troops belonging to the former owners refuse to leave, even at threat of violence, then you eventually have to back up that threat.”
The use of the force of arms to impose an unconstitutional and armed insurrection upon the loyal citizens of the United States resident in the rebellious states are acts of treason punishable by the confiscation of property, imprisonment, and/or capital punishment. The insurrectionists were not recognized by the United States or by the international community as lawful governments or as governments independent of the jurisdiction of the United States. The United States was therefore under no obligation to surrender its properties or its sovereignty in the State of South Carolina, but it was obligated by the Constitution to defend its properties and its sovereignty in South Carolina.
“But nice try at spin there.”
The lies and the spin are yours.