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To: bkopto; Travis McGee

Every time there is a mass shooting along these lines I think of the BATFE/Jimmy Shifflett false flag event in the book “Enemies Foreign and Domestic”.

With every real world shooting the scenario seems to play out as if it was scripted.

The closer we get to Obama’s scheduled departure from the White House the more nervous I get.

He has made no secret of his determination to check off a few more items on his Legacy Bucket list - Like closing GITMO and implementing gun control.

I fully expect that when he feels the time is right he will implement some sort of serious gun control or gun confiscation measure by executive order.

The question is, does he (and do his followers in government) feel strongly enough about the issue to precipitate a false flag event if natural events don’t present the opportunity they are looking for?

I guess time will tell.

But on other issues, like illegal immigration and amnesty, he has shown that he will not be hindered in his actions by legalities or constitutional concerns.


32 posted on 10/01/2015 2:27:05 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Proverbs 21:20 - The wise have stores of food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has))
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To: Iron Munro; bkopto; Travis McGee
Every time there is a mass shooting along these lines I think of the BATFE/Jimmy Shifflett false flag event in the book “Enemies Foreign and Domestic”.

I have to say I agree with this statement, then I start wondering if we need to be minting gold "dimes".

I actually wouldn't put it past this administration to do the false flag, I think Obama's thinking he's got a very short window now to implement whatever ValJar wants to implement.

On a side note to you gentlemen, if you haven't read the book Patriots Versus Bureaucrats, I think you would really enjoy the premise. :-)

64 posted on 10/01/2015 2:48:41 PM PDT by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: Iron Munro

At one time I would not have believed the false flag scenario but when a group is in control of the government they are in control of enormous resources of money and personnel, so I can envision some group within the government that can take on these black flag operations. I think that it is easy to hypnotize a person, especially a person who is not stable to take on an a mass murder and there is nothing easier than picking a soft target like a school or any other gun free zone.

The killer could be seeing a psychiatrist and he could be involved in the plot as well. There are many mentally unstable people in this country. This is not just something that you see in the movies such as “The Manchurian Candidate”. There are unstable people who can be hypnotized to kill, there can be psychiatrists who are evil and they could be working with secret government groups with agendas such as creating an uproar against gun ownership.

I think the Dems have their own special people in the FBI, CIA, Military and ATF. Look at what happened at Waco and Ruby Ridge. Clinton had people who were willing to open fire on a building that had many children inside and they were also able to shoot a 14 year old boy and a mother holding a baby in her arms. I suspect that these were specially picked people who had been given orders to take out anyone that they were ordered to without hesitation.


78 posted on 10/01/2015 3:08:00 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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