Ivan is what finally convinced my late mother in law to (finally) sell her house along the Youghogheny River. It dumped so much rain, so fast, that the volunteer firemen had to evacuate her...we were on our way, but (flash) flooded roads delayed us by maybe a half an hour...they got her (and elderly neighbors out). She had water 3 cellar steps from entering the first floor. Awful storm and clean up job.