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To: duckln
Russia is our friend, but Putin is not a friend of Obama. In the last 25+ years, what has Russia ever done to us. Do have 3 specific cases?

Done to us or our strategic national interests? The Russian takeover of the Crimea and invasion of East Ukraine is one specific ongoing case. They also shot down a civilian airliner.

Second. The construction of nuclear plants in Iran and providing them with anti-aircraft missiles is a threat to the region and our allies, including Israel.

Third. The support of Assad regime which harbors terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas and tried to obtain nuclear weapons. Israel's preemptive strike took our Syria's nascent nuclear facility.

Fourth. In August 2008, American-Russian relations were strained, when Russia invaded Georgia. Russia claimed that it was a mission to protect Georgian separatist regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia from Georgian bombing of civilian areas. The United States supported Georgia in the conflict, sending humanitarian and military aid to Georgia and assisting with the withdrawal of Georgian troops from Iraq.

Fifth. Relations between the United States and Russia worsened when in late July 2013 Russia granted political asylum to the former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, who was wanted by U.S. prosecutors for theft of government property and espionage. This further aggravated relations between the two countries and led to the cancellation of a previously planned one-on-one meeting between Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin that was scheduled for early September 2013 in Moscow, Russia

Sixth. The Russians have taken provocative actions violating US airspace and buzzing our aircraft and ships in international airspace and waters in many locations around the world. For example, a Russian fighter jet, flying at high speed, came within 10 feet of a U.S. Air Force reconnaissance aircraft in international airspace over the Black Sea in May of this year. List of incidents involving Russian military and Nato since March 2014

I could add many other cases of what Russia has done to us over the past 25 years. You have asked for three and I have provided six.

256 posted on 09/30/2015 9:08:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

None of those you listed have any direct bearing on the US. And the “he scared us flying too close” instance is just exactly what the US did for years during th cold war. There hasn’t even been a good “ship bumping” incident by either sid in years.

Both sides are just as innocent and just as guilty.


264 posted on 09/30/2015 9:16:52 AM PDT by wrench
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To: kabar
6 picky, picky issues where no damage done to the US than just hurt our feelings that they don't cow tow to our meddling.

Have you read Kissinger's take on Russia (link below) or some of Pat Buchanan's articles? Have you watched Charlie Roses' interview of Putin Monday? You need to get to know both sides of the issues not just all of the alleged accusations.

Thanks for the list.

#1 Read Kissinger
#2 Russia did not supply Iran with air missiles. There's power plants being built all over the world.
#3 Their was no Hamas or Hezzbola in Syria until Obama started supporting the rebels.
#4 Georgia was another Ukraine type attack threatening Russia's sovereignty.
#5 Did we ever return a Russian defecter to Russia?
#6 Common practice. Testing borders, No big deal.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/us-russia-relations-what-would-henry-kissinger-do-13953

329 posted on 09/30/2015 10:21:36 AM PDT by duckln
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