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To: PapaBear3625

http://30mosques.com/archive2010/2010/09/day-22-ross-north-dakota-a-leap-in-time/

Do you deny that there are Muslims who would argue vehemently against the idea that “right hand possesses” equals justification for rape? No one knows the first Muslim mosque in North America was in Ross ND. It’s not well known because those Muslims lived as Americans.

You are painting with a broad brush, and condemning the innocent with the guilty. I don’t know if you consider yourself a Christian or not but I know Christians hate it when others do that to them. The least we can do is be accurate and not do the exact same thing to others. It’s very unfair to judge a religion by a criminal element that’s hijacked it. I’m talking about Christian extremists during the crusades as well as Muslim extremists like ISIS, and others of their ilk. These people have one thing in common - they and their programmers are sadistic criminals, natural born killers and torturers that take advantage of situations to act out their morbid fetishes. Blaming a non human entity like Communism, Christianity, or Islam is a cop-out in my opinion.


87 posted on 09/28/2015 10:34:26 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
Do you deny that there are Muslims who would argue vehemently against the idea that “right hand possesses” equals justification for rape?

I'm sure you could find lots who would so argue.

The problem is that you can also find lots who would argue that “right hand possesses” DOES equal justification for rape. Many clerics among them.

And then there is the problem of being able to tell which of the ones that argue vehemently against the idea, actually believe what they are saying, and are not just engaging in taqiyya.

88 posted on 09/28/2015 10:40:54 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: dynoman
Blaming a non human entity like Communism, Christianity, or Islam is a cop-out in my opinion.

No, it is not a cop-out. The question to be asked is "Does the body of writings that the religion or ideology is based upon serve to oppose oppression of people, or to justify it?"

With Christianity, the answer is no. The Gospels argue against there being justification for enslaving, raping, or robbing others.

With communism, the answer is yes. The common doctrines of the end justifying the means, coupled with the end-state of communism being of infinite value, would serve to justify doing whatever is needed in order to achieve that end-state.

With Islam, a religion developed by a caravan robber, murderer, rapist, and pedophile, the answer is yes. Writings in the Quran and Hadith explicitly call upon Muslims to wage war against infidels until they submit to Islam.

Islam holds that Mohammad is an exemplar of proper conduct, whom all Muslims should strive to emulate. And Mohammad was a vile man.

89 posted on 09/28/2015 10:49:14 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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