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To: ADSUM

“You do not understand Pope Francis or the teachings of the Catholic Church.”

I fully understand Marxism and communism. You cannot excuse his statements that espouse those evil things that directly and irrefutably contradict the God-given rights under our Constitution.

One expects a pope to have some socialist aspects, but this guy has gone too far - He is not my leader, he is yours. Whatever else he may be that is a positive for you and other Catholics is immaterial to me. I respect that you have a structure that you abide by, I know a fair amount about Catholicism, and have been to Catholic mass more than once.

But this pope did not have the good sense to calibrate his political speech.

Whatever else he is in your eyes - and I don’t argue with it - it’s up to you. To you he is a holy man. To me his recurring themes in his statements shows me he is just another politician attempting to leverage “other peoples money” to gain power and wealth for his organization - and also some level of fame and recognition for himself.

He’s no John Paul II, a man any freedom-loving human being could respect, and indeed, one I did respect.

Maybe Francis is good enough for you - maybe he’s good enough for many or even most Catholics - but not all.

You can’t believe in his Marxist words and the promise of America at the same time.


90 posted on 09/27/2015 3:45:47 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

I do think that you have missed the the significance of Pope Francis. The Pope has no power to enforce Marxism. I sense your getting the political spin from the media and not the full story. He is challenging both sides to solve problems.

Even as head of the Catholic Church, he can not mandate or make anyone give or tax their wealth like a Marxist or Socialist government. He has stated that he is not a Marxist and does not support that political system.

Pope Francis is preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ that is to Love God and your neighbor as yourself. Just like the reading from James at today’s Mass and other parts of the Gospel. Jesus encourages us to help others through love.

The Catholic Church has always helped others, just like Jesus did. Especially the poor and sick. The Pope is asking us to help solve the problems of the world and to do it through the love of God and our neighbors. From the heart voluntarily and not forced by government or from an insincere desire to do good.

Catholics and other religious people are generally good and generous and have done great things to help others. This Pope sees the problems in Catholicism and many are falling away from a spiritual life. He sees the need to challenge people and their set ways of thinking and opposing things and not working to solve problems.

I agree that there is evil in this world and many choose to take advantage of situations to their sinful advantage. We see it in politics, those in authority including church leaders and in business.

While capitalism is generally a better system and beneficial to most people, it does have its excesses and many have abused others through capitalism.

The Pope has lived a simple life like Jesus Christ and is encouraging us to follow Christ’s example and live life through our love of God and neighbor. We gain much by doing so including God’s graces and gain more than we give.

Keep an open mind and try to understand that he is prodding both sides to do the right moral action.


94 posted on 09/27/2015 7:07:57 PM PDT by ADSUM
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