Was It Fixed? Army General Told Subordinates: 'A Woman Will Graduate Ranger School,' Sources Say

people ^ | Sep. 25, 2015 | Susan Keating

[Nifster]

I think you both agree....they passed ‘in some fashion’

[Nifster]

Indeed

[Dr. Pritchett]

I haven’t seen ANYTHING from their fellow students. They must be under some sort of NDA. Look forward to those leaks getting out.

I found MG Miller’s comments thoroughly disingenuous. “We offered any Ranger who doubts this to come back and revalidate his tab... But so far we haven’t had any takers!” Such BS.

[Bikkuri]

And I would say only about 50% of the men that finish Ranger school would pass SEAL “Hell Week”, if that much..

[ontap]

And what moron doesn’t know this was BS!!!

[PROCON]

And what moron doesn’t know this was BS!!!

The same people who voted for 0bama....TWICE!

[ontap]

One only needs to understand one truth...If your son’s life is at stake who would you pick to save him?????

[Dr. Pritchett]

...and the dominoes have already fallen, because Ranget School is now open to women based on the results of this “test”. Great job Army.

[2banana]

Here is another tid bit.

The all male latrines to service 200 males was cut in half to service a dozen female Ranger students. Personal hygiene time is short and precious and you can get negative spot reports if not properly done (like shaving). So the males suffered and all were not treated equal.

Additionally - the cat hole in the patrol base now had a curtain. Because that is tactical.

[mrobisr]

This will end just as badly as the first female navy fighter pilot did, dead at the bottom of the ocean. That performance was so bad that dod has since removed the video. The positive note was that the navigator was smart enough to punch out and survived the stupid ordeal. I just hope that whomever goes on missions with these sub standard GI’s are situational aware enough to not die attempting to make up for their weakness.

[Thunder 6]

If even half of this is true, just “wow”. And...this breaks in People magazine? Wow again...

regards,

[Thunder 6]

Met him in a previous life. He is a politician.

[centurion316]

"A woman will graduate Ranger School," a general told shocked subordinates this year while preparing for the first females to attend a "gender integrated assessment" of the grueling combat leadership course starting April 20, sources tell PEOPLE. "At least one will get through."

On several of the Free Republic discussions on this drama, I described this as the "Weekend at Bernies" scenario. The Army was going to figure how to achieve the "mission" (graduate a female) one way or another. That's what they do. 100 female soldiers were hand selected into a one year intensive training events designed to produce a female graduate. In the end, 2 women out of 100, 2% of a very select group succeeded and only through extraordinary effort by the women and by many, many other soldiers including leaders who could influence the outcome.

The Army considers this as a mission success. I consider the results as clear evidence that the traditional wisdom that women do not belong in the ground gaining combat arms is correct. A success rate of 2% is proof of the pudding and only served to meet political and media results.

The danger of all of this is that the next steps will be the systematic revisions in existing standards so that the success rate will be at least an order of magnitude better than this first experience. This will happen, it has occurred everywhere in the services that have been opened to women. Some of these changes were made without a reduction in combat capability. But, in other cases our combat capability was reduced. This change will fit into the latter scenario.

[Tallguy]

Neither female graduate has an infantry MOS. One was a helicopter pilot. For the women officers this is all about getting the Tab and the next cherry assignment.

[DaxtonBrown]

If women should be in front line warfare, somewhere in entire recorded history there should be an example of an all female army overwhelming inferior male forces.

[rlmorel]

Possibly, but if they said they didn't lower the standards, then unless I have proof they did, I can't go down that road.

I understand your point though, it is indeed a form of affirmative action, which is ipso facto discrimination, where it is a zero sum game. There are X slots open, and females were absolutely given preference.

So, if the females performed at the lowest possible level (which is most likely) then any men who performed at that same level were deliberately passed over.

This refers to an article written by a woman named Jude Eden who was in the Marines and served in the Middle East. (Again, thanks to Smoking Frog for bringing it to our attention) I created this graph, based on information that is established and accepted in the medical community at large, that lays the foundation:

Brilliant: If I can take the money passage: "...Meanwhile, the argument to maintain the combat exclusion makes itself easily in every aspect. Including women in combat units is bad for combat, bad for women, bad for men, bad for children, and bad for the country. The argument for the combat exclusion is provable all the time, every time. Political correctness has no chance against Nature. Her victories are staring us in the face at all times. The men just keep being able to lift more and to run faster, harder, and longer with more weight on their backs while suffering fewer inju- ries. They just keep never getting pregnant. The combat units have needs that women cannot meet. Women have needs that life in a combat unit cannot accommo- date without accepting significant disadvantage and much greater expense. Where 99 percent of men can do the heavy-lifting tasks typical of gunners, but 85 per- cent of women cannot, there is no gap women need to fill..." That pretty much sums it up.

Uplifting, because this Marine who wrote the article is a Marine, and has demonstrated and successfully argued that there is a role for patriotic, dedicated women who want to serve their country as she did, and her service means no less because she wasn't kicking down doors. She is an American Woman, and her heritage and ideals have more in common with the tough as nails frontier women who conquered this country with their men. She makes the feminists look like the petulant, spoiled, anti-American no-loads that they are. This sailor salutes her.

Ominous, because this movement, like the liberal cancers it shares all qualities with, is not going away. The article you linked, smoking frog, describes this perfectly, and why it is inevitable. Because military readiness and capability is being sacrificed on the altar of an Orwellian concept that men and women can do the same tasks exactly the same. This altar will run red with the blood of both men and women, and we are going to suffer lives needlessly ended, battles lost, and a national humiliation the likes of which we haven't seen.

It won't happen now, and it won't happen during some years of the peacetime military. But when we get to a point we are fighting an enemy who is going to be evenly matched with us, we are going to lose, because they cannot be stupid enough to follow the path we have. And when it happens, the people who will scream the loudest in protest, are going to be the successors to the people who made this all happen, since they will likely be kicking back somewhere, comfortable in their Monday morning armchairs, talking about how it wasn't the emasculation of the military combat units that caused this, it was that we didn't spend enough time, money, and effort to make it work.

Anyway, one more time, the link provided by smoking frog, for those of you who want to read it: Women in Combat - The Question of Standards

[Jet Jaguar]

Active Duty ping.

[GOPJ]

Why should the Army bother to lie about this?

The Army should have put names of women in a jar who wanted to be Rangers and picked one name. That woman could be called ‘Ranger’ - or better ‘Ranger of the Year’... or maybe ‘Goddess of Unicorn Land”...

Why the hell go half way?

[minnesota_bound]

There were guys who lost out as there are so many slots and they were given to these women who did not qualify.

[dfwgator]

Meanwhile, in Moscow.....