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To: dforest
Trump has no real reason to run. I truly believe he is running because he loves the America that most love. He could just go home and sit back and not worry for the rest of his life.

I wish he would do just that -- go home and do all the things that make him a successful businessman and let those who are more suited to serve the people run for office. (For the record to anyone reading here, I'm not talking about GOPe candidates. I'm great with the outsider movement. I do, however, require a certain temperament and maturity before considering an outsider, an insider or anyone in between. As an aside, I'm hugely in favor of term limits and citizen legislators. I am NOT the RINO I've so often been accused of.)

The reason I believe him is that he would not make a deal with the people unless he was willing to honor the deal.

Do you think the deals he'd make with the people would be based on constitutionally sound principles? And do you trust him not to flip-flop once in office?

I know he brags, I know he ain't perfect, I know he could be more articulate. I also know that he really likes the people and he would like people to have success. At rallies, people are so pumped and ready to bring America back. I get that from nobody else. They are more like we have to accept the way things are.

I know you are sincere when you write this, and that's what scares me. To me it reads: Trump is the best we can do. He's giving us candy and cake. We're going to settle for with him.

I remember how scared I was after Obama was reelected. The realization that that such a large a portion of the American people could cast a vote for someone who had been so dishonest and manipulative in his first term hit me upside the head like a 2x4. I had naïve faith in the American people. I have that same sinking feeling now, only the questionable judgment is coming from our side of the aisle. I'm not saying that Trump is like Obama. The comparison I'm making is the people who are believing the things their itching ears want to hear, not to mention the almost messiah-like characteristics their respective supporters have attributed to both candidates.

Anyway, nice to be able to have a civil exchange. Apologies if I've hurt your feelings. As often as I'm vilified here these days, I know it's not fun. I resorted to the less civil as a defensive mechanism. Again, I apologize.

144 posted on 09/22/2015 1:58:40 PM PDT by ru4liberty (I wish FR were still "The Premiere *CONSERVATIVE* Site on the Net" :'(.....)
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To: ru4liberty
I really believe we are down to our last leg. Look at Europe and what is happening there. I do not believe that any of our “leaders” care about us, they all have a place to go in mind.

I do not think Trump is a God, not do I have Trump worship.

I believe he came up at the right time and we have a last chance.

Anyone taking money from the donors is not on our side. They may be good people, but they sold out to get elected.

The difficulty for all of us is that we have to decide who we believe. I made my decision, I could be wrong, I accept that, I do not believe the people who promised me what I voted for and turned around and stabbed me in the back. These people have to go.

Now we have the chance to smash the stranglehold on the GOP by the current crooks and liars.It may never come again.

Anyway, you are a top notch person. Thanks for the discussion.

157 posted on 09/22/2015 2:41:49 PM PDT by dforest
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