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To: wagglebee
No, I laid out the FACTS in his disclosures.

No, you speculated on what he could do *based* on his disclosures. It's not the same thing, and I'm convinced you know that, but it seems you desire justification more than intellectual rigor.

I never said that he couldn't, I was pointing out that it's not as easy as some think.

Now you're just caviling. The clear implication is there exists the possibility he could not self-finance. Further, why are you assuming people need to, or care to, know how "easy" it would be for him to liquidate enough assets to self-finance.

You're missing the entire point of his candidacy; it's based on people believing he can accomplish what he says. How he does it is of secondary importance, because others who've promised much the same (thus implying it's not unreasonable) have accomplished NOTHING.

126 posted on 09/16/2015 8:55:42 AM PDT by papertyger (Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui neat. / Proof lies on him who asserts, not on him who denies)
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To: papertyger; xzins; P-Marlowe; trisham; stephenjohnbanker; Sun
No, you speculated on what he could do *based* on his disclosures. It's not the same thing, and I'm convinced you know that, but it seems you desire justification more than intellectual rigor.

Nonsense.

He has about $300 million in case and securities, this fact is not in dispute.

The Trump "brand" is not something that can be readily converted into cash, so it's not part of the equation.

That leaves his real estate, the options to get a billion dollars from that is to either sell property or borrow against it. I was simply pointing out the realities associated with either of those options.

Now you're just caviling. The clear implication is there exists the possibility he could not self-finance. Further, why are you assuming people need to, or care to, know how "easy" it would be for him to liquidate enough assets to self-finance.

Really? People don't "care" about campaign promises?

You're missing the entire point of his candidacy; it's based on people believing he can accomplish what he says.

That was also the point of Obama's candidacy in 2008.

I apologize if the realities of self-financing a billion dollar plus campaign conflict with populist "beliefs."

How he does it is of secondary importance, because others who've promised much the same (thus implying it's not unreasonable) have accomplished NOTHING.

And I have demonstrated the method of HOW he could self-finance AND the obstacles in doing so.

You have dismissed this with, "FReeper please," as if it's somehow sacrilege to point out the realities of his promises.

Now, I understand that you are talking about Trump's major campaign promises like building a wall and tariffs. However, these promises are largely contingent on him self-financing.

128 posted on 09/16/2015 9:13:06 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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