To: Tzfat
In the end AA gets fined and, hopefully, we all learn from the mistake. I retired 15 years ago and flew ETOPS from the early 90’s to 2000. Mostly to and from Europe. Before entering the North Atlantic tracks, we had to send an “E OK” message to dispatch. All involved knew what animal we had strapped on.
Flew the B-777 shortly after it came out and it was certified for 180 minutes “off the shelf.” No ETOPS to Hawaii yet back then. I flew the 737 back when we thought that Knoxville to New York was too long!
36 posted on
09/14/2015 2:36:52 PM PDT by
BatGuano
(You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
To: BatGuano
A320 series’s myself. There are often times we have to dig deeper to find if the a/c is limited 50, 161, or 406 over water because it is not clear. My guess is they have a set of nose numbers they are moving to ETOPS and some one jumped the gun in entering this particular tail number into the system. No doubt a fine is coming, and new procedures for identifying in the flight deck so a paperwork snafu does not happen again.
37 posted on
09/14/2015 3:54:38 PM PDT by
Tzfat
To: BatGuano
BTW, it looks like it was an H model, which is ETOPS, but that particular H had not been actually cleared for ETOPS. The crew will likely be cleared.
38 posted on
09/14/2015 3:56:38 PM PDT by
Tzfat
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