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Russia tells Washington: talk to us over Syria or risk 'unintended incidents'
Reuters ^ | September 11th, 2015 | By Christian Lowe

Posted on 09/11/2015 8:34:40 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: Mariner

Putin has said Assad is ready to share power with healthy opposition. So, in other words, this thing may be able to come to a conclusion finally.


21 posted on 09/11/2015 8:48:10 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: darkwing104
"A Mig-31 is a little out of place in Syria. Su-27s would be a better fit. "

Yeah, you're right about that.

Unless it's role is to intercept US aircraft.

22 posted on 09/11/2015 8:48:56 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mr. K

It’s all going according to Obama’s plan......can you imagine ANY of this happening if we had a strong Conservative in the WH???? Russia and the rest would have been to afraid too do what they have been doing. I am not necessarily a Trump supporter, but do believe that Trump is the only one that scares the crap out of those who are terrorizing the world.


23 posted on 09/11/2015 8:49:58 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Genoa

Agreed


24 posted on 09/11/2015 8:50:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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Looking at wikipedia, the Mig-31 can do the Wild Weasel anti-radar role and its radar can be used in the AWACS role.


25 posted on 09/11/2015 8:51:39 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Mariner

While what you say is reasoned and true at this point, how does that change the moment an Israeli first strike is launched to take out the Iranian nuclear program?

From that point it escalates dramatically.

Obama’s moves with Iran and this Russian intervention set in place a perfect enactment of Ezekiel 38.

It’s amazing to me how things are closing in on that eventuality.


26 posted on 09/11/2015 8:52:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: 2banana
"Drones is all obama has."

And as soon as the fool takes out a few Russian assets the party will be on.

27 posted on 09/11/2015 8:53:02 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: DoughtyOne
"They’re there to make sure Israel doesn’t take out the Iranian nuclear weapons program."

I suppose that's possible, but Russia has never shown direct hostility toward Israel in the past.

They would have to be already airborne to have a chance at intercepting an Israeli raid....no they would not.

They would be able to chase down Israeli aircraft as they were transiting across Jordan and Iraq.

28 posted on 09/11/2015 8:54:42 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner
Unless it's role is to intercept US aircraft.

But don't forget the Russians wanted us to believe that a Ukrainian Su-27 (operating well above its operational altitude) shot down that jetliner.

29 posted on 09/11/2015 8:55:48 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: HarleyLady27

RE” “I can see Putin and Europe to tell America to go to hell”

Sagely so -
Look for upcoming unified EU media-lawmaker-citizen voice in Europe fully blaming the US for creating IS / ISIS / Daesh and the resulting epic humanitarian crisis across the middle east and europe, ie: the US broke the middle east, and we own responsibility.
Obola has wrecked any remaining good will and respect for America, once leader of the free world - Just as planned.
Nero 2.0 on a global scale.

When will Obola be stripped of his Nobel Peace Prize, and be brought before The Hague to stand trial for war crimes?


30 posted on 09/11/2015 8:56:32 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: elhombrelibre
The Putinista cheerleaders will be happy

Putin is fighting against ISIS, and we're fighting with ISIS. I'll have to side with Russia on this one.

31 posted on 09/11/2015 8:56:54 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: BeadCounter
"Putin has said Assad is ready to share power with healthy opposition. "

That's Ivan-speak for those that survive.

Hell's a comin' to Assad's enemies.

32 posted on 09/11/2015 8:57:53 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Mariner

Good! Because the idea of non-ISIS opposition to Assad is a myth.


33 posted on 09/11/2015 8:58:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mariner

Once again, that is true, however Russia’s allies in the region are Syria and Iran.

It is not Israel, and Israel would be deemed to be attacking a Russian ally.

How does that end?

I believe it ends at the very least with air strikes in Israel. What that leads to, I don’t even want to contemplate.

Russia didn’t think this one out very well.


34 posted on 09/11/2015 8:58:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: C19fan
"Wild Weasel anti-radar role and its radar can be used in the AWACS role"

Maybe the best Radar and Tracking of any fighter in the sky today.

35 posted on 09/11/2015 8:59:32 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: DoughtyOne
"I believe it ends at the very least with air strikes in Israel."

I have no access to secret intelligence, but I don't believe Russia would attack Israel under any but existential circumstances.

Just penetrating that air space would be very costly for them.

However, the scenario where they intercept Israeli aircraft en route to an Iranian raid is plausible.

36 posted on 09/11/2015 9:05:41 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
I wished that would happen, but I don't think it will

He is responsible, IMO, for all of it....for killing 4 Americans in Benghazi, running guns to Syria to get rid of Assad, for the ISIS that has now over ran Iraq, and other countries....

Yesterday I read where the U.S. told Russia to get out of Ukraine, why should they? I think the only thing holding anything together right now is Russia, and I hate Russia, but the muslim in chief has done so much damage that I don't know if we will ever get back the respect we worked so hard for...and then there is Israel...

The muslim in chief wants to meet with Bibi, Why? Hasn't he done enough damage to Bibi??? I would say so, in fact, if I were Bibi, I would invite him over, and the minute the muslim in chief touches down, I would be flying out of the Country on an ‘emergency’.....

Nope, this deal yesterday, the day before the 14th anniversary of 9/11 has done it for me....I'm a Trump supporter all the way, and I just hope when Trump gets into office, he will have enough to turn this country around...

37 posted on 09/11/2015 9:08:22 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ("Go TRUMP 2016!!! All the Way to the White House!!!)
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To: Mariner

So, whom is the US supporting vs. assad, and how do we determine whom they are.... and really... why? Except as yet another proxy war against soviets.

ISIS is our creation out of the “mcCain” moderate “rebels” who turn out to be yet another pretender to the caliphate... or... an extension of al-qaeda by another name.

This is so out of hand it is ridiculous. Would hate to be an operator on the ground there with CIA “support”. But it does support more military industrial product lines.

Assad: pro-Iranian, Pro-Russian, and has left Christians alone in the country.
Obamaumao: pro-Iranian (esp. nukes), pro-”rebels” aka ISIS, and pro-caliphate (stamped with the Saudi OK and a ticket to Mecca).
Brennan: a muslim convert from Roman (Irish) Catholicism.
Huma: a muslim brotherhood operative within State, and now with the BIll, Hill and Chelsea criminal foundation for self aggrandizement.


38 posted on 09/11/2015 9:09:15 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby; Mariner

Obamaumao as part of that “flexibility” he spoke about with Medvedev.

There is a war going on undercover, and within our intel...hopefully so that the US national interest is preserved, and not petro/natural gas/euro politics, and russian criminal enterprise.


39 posted on 09/11/2015 9:11:25 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: DoughtyOne
Since the Russians are supporting Assad and the Syrian government, would you bomb them for the benefit of ISIS?

Right now there are two sides in Syria - bad and worse. We opposed the bad, so by default we are supporting the worse. Although we pretended that there was a significant number of "good guys", if there were any they quickly got killed or switched sides. Right now our best path is to kill off the expansionist cancer of ISIS - or to just avoid the whole mess of the Middle East and pump our own oil.

40 posted on 09/11/2015 9:15:32 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The 1st amendment is the voice and the 2nd is the teeth of freedom. Obama wants to knock out both.)
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